Spoilers New Picard TV Series and Litverse Continuity (may contain TV show spoilers)

[Greg Cox]

Eh, they could have accomplished that by having Spiner return as Alton Soong.

They didn't just want the cast back. They wanted the classic crew back. The characters, not just the actors.

Given that this season was promoted as a Big TNG Reunion event, I can see why you'd want that to include Data, not just another Brent Spiner character.

 

[Charles Phipps]

How far into Shelby's timeline do the New Frontier books go? I remember she was Captain of the Galaxy class Excalibur. After that I don't know anything.

While his health probably prevents it, I now wish Peter David could do one final New Frontier novel over this.

 

[Sci]

Convergent evolution.
Or cross-pollination between timelines.

Indeed, Coda: Oblivion's Gate already established that the Borg have had distinct origin points in other timelines.

 

[Charles Phipps]

Indeed, Coda: Oblivion's Gate already established that the Borg have had distinct origin points in other timelines.

Like the Cybermen, I don't see a problem with "brainwashed by gestalt machine consciousness races have distinct similarities."

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Indeed, Coda: Oblivion's Gate already established that the Borg have had distinct origin points in other timelines.

So it's not always the Caeliar?

 

[Sci]

So it's not always the Caeliar?

Yep. It was the Caeliar in the First Splinter Timeline, but the Borg Picard encountered in the alternate timeline in which they had assimilated Earth in 2063 had a different origin.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Yep. It was the Caeliar in the First Splinter Timeline, but the Borg Picard encountered in the alternate timeline in which they had assimilated Earth in 2063 had a different origin.

Ah, so they have a kind of Phantom Stranger vibe going here? Where many different origins are possible? I'm down with that.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

The Borg are inevitable.

 

[Charles Phipps]

At one point, the Caeliar lose track of another portion of their race that goes crazy. Maybe their catoms merged with them.

 

[F. King Daniel]

I'm assuming everyone and their dog is pitching a "not my fault" Worf story right now?

 

[The Wormhole]

I'm assuming everyone and their dog is pitching a "not my fault" Worf story right now?

Eh, I'm just assuming the Enterprise E really was involved in the Prodigy finale.

 

[F. King Daniel]

By the way, does anyone else get massive Shatnerverse vibes from Picard season 3? The overwhelmingly contrived plotline so that only the oldies can save the day, the over-the-top insanity of the baddie plot, the scope of the threat, that it all hinges on Picard's seed etc etc

 

[thribs]

By the way, does anyone else get massive Shatnerverse vibes from Picard season 3? The overwhelmingly contrived plotline so that only the oldies can save the day, the over-the-top insanity of the baddie plot, the scope of the threat, that it all hinges on Picard's seed etc etc

I just find it funny we are doing bad machine controlled Starfleet ships again. First in Lower Decks with the Texas Class, then Prodigy with the Construct and now this.

 

[thribs]

Eh, I'm just assuming the Enterprise E really was involved in the Prodigy finale.

It’s not Prodigy. It’s mentioned in those Instagram posts that it was some classified mission somewhere else.

 

[Markonian]

With PIC wiping Litverse and Shatnerverse off the map, would old games like Elite Force, Elite Force II, Armada and Armada II fit into canon continuity again?

 

[Sci]

With PIC wiping Litverse and Shatnerverse off the map, would old games like Elite Force, Elite Force II, Armada and Armada II fit into canon continuity again?

I suppose Elite Force might, but Armada and Armada II wouldn't really fit. I have never played Elite Force II so I can't comment on that one.

 

[Allyn Gibson]

With PIC wiping Litverse and Shatnerverse off the map, would old games like Elite Force, Elite Force II, Armada and Armada II fit into canon continuity again?

There's a part of me that would love to write a novelization of Armada. Picard facing off against Locutus--what's not to love? It could get into the metaphysical implications of Picard facing his dark mirror in a way that Nemesis tried and failed to do. Is Locutus a clone? A copy? A relic of an alternate timeline? Or what if it's Picard that's the copy, and it's Locutus that is the original?

I reinstalled it on my PC a week or two ago. Michael Dorn sounds terrible, like he recorded all of his dialogue over the phone.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Once I got over my initial fear they were gonna spell out B O R G, seeing the Federation Day fleet in formation did give me Armarda vibes.

 

[Mike Doyle]

Once I got over my initial fear they were gonna spell out B O R G, seeing the Federation Day fleet in formation did give me Armarda vibes.

It’s just not in English.

 

[Markonian]

It’s just not in English.

Borg? Sounds Swedish.