What story elements would you remove or just forget exist from canon?
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Or had once... remember that by that point in time, Picard had encountered the Kataanian probe, and thus been a parent himself.
FTFY. After Riker gets married, Data takes over his job as "...a tyrannical martinet who'll never, ever allow me to go on away missions!"
Have you ever read @Christopher's "Department of Temporal Investigations" novels? He does exactly that.
Miri's World isn't a copy of Earth...it literally IS Earth, from an alternate timeline.
The writers barely remembered, why should we? He should have been almost like Dax, he was mentally decades older.
I have not read those books. (I think it's a series of several novels.) Time travel really gives me a headache because it so rarely ties up all the loose ends right and can be very difficult to keep track of everything.
Christopher's a smart man, and I suppose if anyone can make it work on a regular basis, it'd be him.
Pretty sure they at least abandoned the "Picard is bad with kids" character trait. If that and the flute were all he visibly took away... well, it's something.
I want Strange New World to fix The Gorn, and
It's really the only misstep I saw in that season.
Hemmer Should not have Died
It's really the only misstep I saw in that season.
Honestly, there are multiple instances where characters experienced levels of trauma that should have scarred them for the rest of their lives.
O'Brien's experience in DS9's "Hard Time," which was let's mix the decades of living a real dream of "Inner Light" with a torture akin to "Chain of Command," should have made him a different person from that point forward. The only explanation is that 24th century anti-depressants must be really amazing.
My head canon is that Bashir continued to research the techniques used by the Argathi. When Sisko rattled his saber (or rather, his heavily armed "escort" ship) with them, they were forthcoming with relevant information. After a few days of work, Bashir was able to do some work on the implanted memories... he could not erase them completely, but he reduced them to a blur, the way you would remember an extended tequila bender. O'Brien was still affected, but with love and understanding from his family, he was able to put the experience behind him.
What story elements would I remove or just forget exist from canon?
The explanation for the smooth-head Klingons. I'd stick with the explanation Roddenberry (I think) gave in 1979. They always looked like TMP, our TV reception was just that bad. I do like the suggestion someone here made that "Trials and Tribbilations" should have went with a smooth-headed Worf when they went back to K-7.
The entire augment arc from Enterprise.
I'd mix the idea that all the TNG era movies had to revolve around Picard and Data.
I'd mix Data or anyone related to Soong from all of Picard.
Just say no to prequels
Disco season 3 should have been season 1. Instead of a prequel just start off in the post-burn 31st century. Burnan's arc could have been essentially the same.
Instead of the JJ movies giving us familiar characters, introduce all brand new characters. It's a big enough galaxy. Kirk and company weren't necessary in drawing the casual viewers. Quit rehashing TWOK
The explanation for the smooth-head Klingons. I'd stick with the explanation Roddenberry (I think) gave in 1979. They always looked like TMP, our TV reception was just that bad. I do like the suggestion someone here made that "Trials and Tribbilations" should have went with a smooth-headed Worf when they went back to K-7.
The entire augment arc from Enterprise.
I'd mix the idea that all the TNG era movies had to revolve around Picard and Data.
I'd mix Data or anyone related to Soong from all of Picard.
Just say no to prequels
Disco season 3 should have been season 1. Instead of a prequel just start off in the post-burn 31st century. Burnan's arc could have been essentially the same.
Instead of the JJ movies giving us familiar characters, introduce all brand new characters. It's a big enough galaxy. Kirk and company weren't necessary in drawing the casual viewers. Quit rehashing TWOK
Please!
I do my best to ignore the existence of PIC. That's the only show I'd really remove if I could.
From the other shows, I'd remove the Temporal Cold War nonsense from Enterprise and the time travel aspect of the VOY finale. Instead I'd make it a story where the Borg plan the largest invasion of the Alpha/Beta quadrants they have ever launched and Voyager would foil their plans, blow up the Queen and her villain lair, and use their subspace corridor (or whatever they used) to travel home.
From the other shows, I'd remove the Temporal Cold War nonsense from Enterprise and the time travel aspect of the VOY finale. Instead I'd make it a story where the Borg plan the largest invasion of the Alpha/Beta quadrants they have ever launched and Voyager would foil their plans, blow up the Queen and her villain lair, and use their subspace corridor (or whatever they used) to travel home.
9/11 in space. By a quick count...
The Xindi attack
The destruction of Vulcan
The Vengeance crash
The synth attack on Mars
And now the events of Picard S03E01
Did I miss any? I probably missed some. 9/11 was shit. You can get away with doing a Star Trek Universe version of it once, maybe twice. But come on!
The Xindi attack
The destruction of Vulcan
The Vengeance crash
The synth attack on Mars
And now the events of Picard S03E01
Did I miss any? I probably missed some. 9/11 was shit. You can get away with doing a Star Trek Universe version of it once, maybe twice. But come on!
I agree. But then there was some update in Picard (minor enough that I don't even remember it now) and people are asking for an "explanation" other than "Hey 1) we have money and 2) that was 35 years ago!"
Societal grief processing.
Eh?
PIC hasn't introduced any changes to the Klingons that I'm aware of.Hell, apart from a picture of Worf in an early episode (and of course his actual onscreen appearance in S3), the series hasn't dealt with the Klingon problem AT ALL.
AFAIK, that was the plan all along. The actor signed on to play that role for only the first season.
Although I did hear that he'll be back, playing a different character, in S2.
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Actually, they kind of were. I remember when Trek XI was released reading a review of it in the newspaper, a two page review (the front page of the paper's entertainment section, continued onto another page) basically gushing over the fact that the Trek franchise "finally" revisited TOS and gave the world new versions of those characters. The whole appeal of Trek XI to the non-fans was that it was a remake of TOS. I really don't think they could have generated that kind of hype with a new cast.
I suppose there's also the peace summit bombing at the start of DS9 Homefront (which even included the numbers 9 and 11 together in the stardate) and the Breen attacking Earth in The Changing Face of Evil. Granted, both episodes were written and aired before 9/11, so they obviously weren't based on it. Though, IMO it's exactly because they predate 9/11 that I feel they're better analogies for it than the others.
Besides, just be thankful we haven't gotten Space January 6 yet, or Space COVID. You know it's inevitable Trek's going to do both at some point. Hell, Picard Season 2 was going to be Space COVID before Patrick Stewart overruled the idea.
And Noah Hawley's unmade Trek movie was about a space pandemic, and cancelled when Covid made such things daily life rather than escapist entertainment.
Also SNW literally played Jan 6 footage in their first episode, explicitly saying it was the path to WW3.
No, there was an update to some other race and people wanted an explanation like we got with the Klingons.. I'm sorry I'm not recalling, I'm not rewatching the episode, and I'm not wading through 30 pages of Picard thread.Eh?