Team Ezri without question, though I did like Jadzia as well.
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Team Jadzia as well. Ezri was supposedly the station counselor, but she was manning a station on the Defiant and blasting at Jem'Hadar with a rifle just like Jadzia would have been. It really kind of reminded me of a soap opera convention, where you'd periodically get an announcement: "The part of Grizabella McShamrock is now being played by Gwendolyn Moonbeam", and the story would just go on with a different actress. Yes, Ezri's relationships were different, but her function on the show was not. It would have been far better to just give Terry Farrell what she wanted, and save the "neurotic Trill" concept for another show.
Jadzia was a confident soldier/warrior who we'd see fight many times, both in hand to hand combat and on the Defiant piloting. Ezri saw combat only once on the ground, which she said was her first time, and it was originally not going to happen because Sisko was just supposed to bring supplies to AR-558. However, due to the Jem'Hadar driving off the Defiant, Sisko decided to stay and help the ground people, especially since their original leader was killed. It's why we also saw Bashir there, who was also not the typical soldier/fighter. It would have been a different episode if you had the more experienced soldiers there, like Worf or O'Brien. It helps drive the point of the episode home better. Ezri definitely didn't show the confidence in shooting at the Jem'Hadar that Jadzia had.
And as far as the Defiant, Ezri was not at the helm or manning the weapons console in either of the two times we saw her on the bridge during combat. Her station looked to be the damage control/support function. Worf was at weapons both times and Kira was at the helm in "THE CHANGING FACE OF EVIL", while Nog was in the finale.
It's also worth noting that it was wartime, and despite officers having a typically pacifist role like a counselor or stellar cartographer or doctor, it's almost a certainty that those roles would see fighting during the Dominion War.
I liked Ezri slightly more. Jadzia was fine until Blood Oath.
There's room for The God Thing and Planet of the Titans to both happen. If you slot them between TMP and TWOK.
I speculated here once that the events of Planet of the Titans are what led to Kirk leaving the Enterprise a second time. Since I could never buy that Kirk would leave the Enterprise again after trying so hard to get her back TMP. Something serious would've had to have happened and Planet of the Titans fits the bill.
Link to post of mine from a few years ago going into this in detail:
"Planet of the Titans": The Missing Link | The Trek BBS
But here's the really controversial one. If you look at the basic story outline for The God Thing from Wikipedia...
"After an alien entity declaring itself to be God destroys spacecraft en route to Earth, the Enterprise is launched under the command of Admiral Kirk to engage the vessel. He re-assembles the former crew, including Spock, and sets out to intercept the alien. As they approach the entity, it transports a humanoid probe on board the Enterprise that takes a variety of forms—including that of Jesus. The crew determine that the being and its craft are from an alternate dimension and have been responsible for the creation of religion of numerous planets to teach their inhabitants its laws in a manner understandable at their points in development. The being is malfunctioning; the crew repair it and send it back to its own dimension."
... this sounds like the type of thing that could've been an episode of TOS if Gene Roddenberry could've gotten it through NBC. Zero chance that would've happened, if it could've happened, I think he would've tried it.
I'd place The God Thing after TMP but before Planet of the Titans.
I speculated here once that the events of Planet of the Titans are what led to Kirk leaving the Enterprise a second time. Since I could never buy that Kirk would leave the Enterprise again after trying so hard to get her back TMP. Something serious would've had to have happened and Planet of the Titans fits the bill.
Link to post of mine from a few years ago going into this in detail:
"Planet of the Titans": The Missing Link | The Trek BBS
But here's the really controversial one. If you look at the basic story outline for The God Thing from Wikipedia...
"After an alien entity declaring itself to be God destroys spacecraft en route to Earth, the Enterprise is launched under the command of Admiral Kirk to engage the vessel. He re-assembles the former crew, including Spock, and sets out to intercept the alien. As they approach the entity, it transports a humanoid probe on board the Enterprise that takes a variety of forms—including that of Jesus. The crew determine that the being and its craft are from an alternate dimension and have been responsible for the creation of religion of numerous planets to teach their inhabitants its laws in a manner understandable at their points in development. The being is malfunctioning; the crew repair it and send it back to its own dimension."
... this sounds like the type of thing that could've been an episode of TOS if Gene Roddenberry could've gotten it through NBC. Zero chance that would've happened, if it could've happened, I think he would've tried it.
I'd place The God Thing after TMP but before Planet of the Titans.
Team Ezri, if I had to choose.
But on the gripping hand, there should have been multiple Dax hosts, like a new one every one or two seasons. They could even say that being joined sometimes burns the host out, and the host screening was not infallible; they had a blank slate, and having a joined character was tailor made for regular casting changes, not unlike the Timelord Doctor.
But on the gripping hand, there should have been multiple Dax hosts, like a new one every one or two seasons. They could even say that being joined sometimes burns the host out, and the host screening was not infallible; they had a blank slate, and having a joined character was tailor made for regular casting changes, not unlike the Timelord Doctor.
Team Joran.
God how interesting would it have been to have a serial killer as a regular.
God how interesting would it have been to have a serial killer as a regular.
He certainly wasn’t an exact fit for your description, but I always thought Lon Suder was an interesting character.
Any time you cast Brad Dourif, you won.
I'm really sad if this is actually controversial.
With the exception of a handful of episodes that came later, TNG was creatively dead, and should have ended, with season 5.
I would agree that season 6 had a good deal of strong episodes. Season 7 was overall very mediocre.
That's right.
The notion that everyone is entitled to their own opinion shouldn't be controversial... but it is.
Indeed...
"Interface" - Let's meet Geordi's mom.
"Dark Page" - Let's meet Troi's sister.
"Inheritance" - Let's meet Data's mom.
"Homeward" - Let's meet Worf's foster brother.
"Sub Rosa" - Let's meet Crusher's grandma.
"Bloodlines" - Let's meet Picard's 'son'.
The only reason they didn't do Riker is because he got a transporter duplicate at the very tail end of season 6.
I will defend "Dark Page", however, because it at least gave us the 'why' of Lwaxana Troi, which invariably gave us the spiritual successor with Neelix on VGR. But all the others on the list are just dismal to terrible episodes.
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