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Spoilers Andor season one

Excellent epsidoe. Did such a great job increasing the tension throughout. The Eye looked beautiful when we finally saw it in full, and in those shots of the TIE fighter pilots getting ready to launch in front of it. And that chase scene afterwards! So happy with how this show looks after Obi-Wan Kenobi looking so shoddy in places. Nemik's death was very sad and I'm really impressed how they got me to care so much about a new character in just three episodes. Halfway through this could end up as the best Disney+ series (including the MCU stuff.)
 
Mas Amedda or Sly Moore would be enough for me. They're Palpatine's right hand people in the Imperial Senate and just one call or door away from the Emperor himself. Will we see an Ian McDiarmid cameo? Possibly. But if we don't get one we know the Emperor is still looming out there inside the former Jedi Temple or in an office building adjacent to the Senate.
Palpatine should not be in this show at all. The whole point of this series is it's about the ordinary everypeople of the Star Wars universe. Even the authority figures we do see are on the lower end of the authority spectrum. Corporate security officers, Mid-level (or lower) ISB personnel, commandant of an Imperial base on a meaningless backwater planet. Even Mon Mothma, who we know eventually becomes the leader of the Rebel Alliance is currently at a point in her life where she has no real authority or power. Bringing the Emperor into this completely ruins what is making this show so unique.
 
Palpatine should not be in this show at all. The whole point of this series is it's about the ordinary everypeople of the Star Wars universe. Even the authority figures we do see are on the lower end of the authority spectrum. Corporate security officers, Mid-level (or lower) ISB personnel, commandant of an Imperial base on a meaningless backwater planet. Even Mon Mothma, who we know eventually becomes the leader of the Rebel Alliance is currently at a point in her life where she has no real authority or power. Bringing the Emperor into this completely ruins what is making this show so unique.

Amen.
 
Palpatine should not be in this show at all. The whole point of this series is it's about the ordinary everypeople of the Star Wars universe. Even the authority figures we do see are on the lower end of the authority spectrum. Corporate security officers, Mid-level (or lower) ISB personnel, commandant of an Imperial base on a meaningless backwater planet. Even Mon Mothma, who we know eventually becomes the leader of the Rebel Alliance is currently at a point in her life where she has no real authority or power. Bringing the Emperor into this completely ruins what is making this show so unique.
I don't even like it that much and I completely agree. This is a profoundly human driven story. Not fate, not prophecy, not magic or wizardry. It's regular, flawed, annoying, unremarkable and frustrating. I haven't like most of them but the story is intriguing enough. But, more than that, it's very human.
 
Predictable. Everyone died, again..

Kept my interest, alot better than previous episodes. Andor was interesting, has his own rules. If he took half, he's be dead soon. Empire isnt really looking for him , but people from whom you took 40 mil? Yeah.. Every bounty hunter alive would be on ur ass. Take ur cut and shove off.
 
Predictable. Everyone died, again..

Kept my interest, alot better than previous episodes. Andor was interesting, has his own rules. If he took half, he's be dead soon. Empire isnt really looking for him , but people from whom you took 40 mil? Yeah.. Every bounty hunter alive would be on ur ass. Take ur cut and shove off.

Yeah, no. Hypothetical bounty hunters aren't remotely the threat that the Empire is. If he did have $40M, he'd be able to buy a helluva lot more protection than those hiring bounty hunters would.
 
Yeah, I thought it was pretty clear he was just taking his cut and the doctor's ship and letting Vel have the ship with the rest of the money, was him genuinely want to help her and do the right thing.
I definitely agree that the insights the show has given us into the Empire have been fascinating. It really is a mess. One thing wasn't real clear on though, was if the Senate was always that empty, or if it was just that they everybody else had already walked out on Mon Mothma's speech by the time the scene started, and what we saw were just the last few stragglers. It did give us a nice look at why she's so disgusted by it and ends of leaving it.
After all the build up, the heist did not disappoint. We did end up with a bit more of a body count than I expected by the end of the episode. I'd already seen other posters predicting Nemik's death, so that wasn't to much a surprise, but he was the only death I was expecting. Taramyn's did catch me by surprise a little.
Skeen's turn was a big shock, I did not expect that.
Are Vel and Cinta the first gay couple we've had play this big a role in Star Wars production? I know there have a few blink and you miss it moments, and some hints, but I don't remember anything as clear and prominent as Vel and Cinta.
I'm curious with the way this ended, if he is actually going leave Vel or if he'll decide at the last moment to stick with her?
I have a feeling Nemik's manifesto will be a big part of what turns Cassian into a true Rebel. I can't see them having made such a big deal out of Vel giving to him if wasn't going to be important later.
 
Huh. Poor Corporal "just doing his job at the wrong place at the wrong time" Kimzi was played by Nick Blood, who I remember fondly as Lance Hunter on Agents of SHIELD. I didn't even recognize him.
 
This episode almost felt like a foreshadow of the "Rogue One" finale, but with a more concise plan.

Huh. Poor Corporal "just doing his job at the wrong place at the wrong time" Kimzi was played by Nick Blood, who I remember fondly as Lance Hunter on Agents of SHIELD. I didn't even recognize him.

I thought he looked familiar.


The whole point of this series is it's about the ordinary everypeople of the Star Wars universe.

I thought the whole point of this series was supposed to be about how Cassian Andor became a member of the Rebel Alliance.
 
Out of seven members of the team, two definitely survived. I don't know about Clinta Kaz's fate.
We saw her walk away. Her survival is established as well as Vel Sartha's. So, as of right now, it's three, which is more than 42%. That's close enough for me to agree with "about half" survived/died (and with a seven-member team, it doesn't get any closer to half than that, it's only a question of which side of the middle you're on).
 
And now we shift gears again for the back 6.........really enjoying this ride and all the fanboys missing their space wizards! nOt My StAr WArZ!!!!!!!
 
I'm not missing the space wizards, or bounty hunters, or pew pew space battles.. You can do a gripping thief/spy movie/series, but this series is just a bit boring, pacing is slow, writing is predictable. I hope it gets better in the back end.
 
#cassianshotfirst

#cassianalwaysshootsfirst

It's Cruachan Dam.
It's kinda wild seeing people oohing and aahing over UK landscape, when it just seems normal to me. Don't get me wrong, the Scottish highlands, Cumbria, and the like are among the prettier locations on a nice day, but I've hiked along hillsides just like that and mostly remember them being cold, damp and covered in sheep shit.
I don't disagree with you but when you're away from that kind of scenery for a long time or if you've never been around it then it does hold a power over you.
 
I really liked that shot of the TIE pilots getting into their fighters.

Sometimes watching with captions pays funny dividends, turns out the four-armed doctor at the end of the episode was Dr. Quadpaw. Of course, he is.
No worse than the groan inducing "Dr. Mandible" in Mandalorin...ugh.

We saw her walk away. Her survival is established as well as Vel Sartha's. So, as of right now, it's three, which is more than 42%. That's close enough for me to agree with "about half" survived/died (and with a seven-member team, it doesn't get any closer to half than that, it's only a question of which side of the middle you're on).
Is this a glass half full/empty question?
 
And I'm officially out. I wanted to like this. I love Rogue One. But I don't.

I'm bored. There isn't even any creative or interesting worldbuilding happening here. There's angst, and melodrama, but it's just so completely disconnected from Star Wars in any meaningful way that I simply can't bring myself to care for the generic, grimdark staples of supposedly adult sci-fi.

It looks great, visually, sure. But there isn't any there there. Next!
 
I think Palpatine should have small roles or what amounts to a cameo from time to time. Mostly though if you want to show some insight from the very top it should be his chief of staff or something like that. Which I guess would be Tarkin.

What I would do if I was making the show is to have the final scene be someone come in and brief him about the new Rebellion that is getting started and making a dent.

The idea that when you go into season 2 you know the Empire knows they are a threat and will be taking more extreme measures to stop them. Before that they barely acknowledged them. Then don't show those him again until next year in another small cameo.

You need to avoid Vadar though IMO. At this point in time his main goal is hunting down Jedi and I don't think Vadar gives a shit about Empire politics. So he wouldn't be invested in fighting them. He will and does but what I think he cares about is Jedi stuff
 
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