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Spoilers Lord of the Rings TV series

Orphalesion said:
Why would Celeborn be dead or believed to be dead? The backstory of them meeting in the First Age in Doriath is only mentioned in the Silmarillion, something the creators of this show have no rights to. So it seems more likely to me that in this version Galadriel and Celeborn haven't met yet.
I find it more likely that Galadriel will at some point travel north from the Southlands/Mordor to the Vales of Anduin and meet Celeborn there, possibly in the very future location of Lorien.
Though I really wonder whether they will show or mention Lorien, what with Lindon already made up to look pretty much exactly like Lorien (a golden woodland, and the leaves of the trees appear to be the same design they used for the Mallorn leaves in the movies) minus the giant trees.
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Did you watch Episode 7?

Not a criticism BTW - but based on Galadriel’s dialogue with Theo in this episode, she has met Celeborn as a character, referring to him as her husband, and that the last she saw of him was when he marched off to war, to battle Morgoth during the First Age. And she hasn’t seen him since - and in the context of her and Theo’s conversation, which is regarding Loss of loved ones, it’s fairly clear Galadriel believes he likely died on the battlefield, essentially missing-presumed dead.

So I’m slightly confused to your line of questioning (unless I’m mis-interpreting your post?)
 
saddestmoon said:
Did you watch Episode 7?

Not a criticism BTW - but based on Galadriel’s dialogue with Theo in this episode, she has met Celeborn as a character, referring to him as her husband, and that the last she saw of him was when he marched off to war, to battle Morgoth during the First Age. And she hasn’t seen him since - and in the context of her and Theo’s conversation, which is regarding Loss of loved ones, it’s fairly clear Galadriel believes he likely died on the battlefield, essentially missing-presumed dead.

So I’m slightly confused to your line of questioning (unless I’m mis-interpreting your post?)
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Can you tell me where in the episode it is? I want to check without having to watch the whole thing again. I remember her talking about losing somebody, but it sounded to me like she was talking about Finrod, her lost brother who was shown to be her motivation to fight in the very first episode.

Edit; Oh Episode 7 No haven't seen it yet. Well, that's stupid.
 
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I thought the episode might explain why they have a Durin as the son of a Durin, going against the Dwarves' belief that the Durins are reincarnations of the original Durin, but no...
 
Phenomenal episode. The show is firing at all cylinders now. While I had hoped all of the many threads and lands and characters would born out a worthy tapestry, I'm relieved to see actually work out. Every story arc in this episode was riveting and I cannot wait to see how the season will conclude (damn, only one episode left!).

I absolute loved the sheer horror of the opening with ash and smoldering fire and red skies encapsulating what was once the Southlands. That atmospheric setting went a long way to drive the mood of the moment. Death and destruction, injuries both physical and emotional, strengthening bonds while weakening others. Truly a consequential moment for all involved. I worried about who would die, especially Bronwyn, but I was relieved she managed to escape harm. Of course, Isildur isn't actually dead so I'm a little frustrated the show has taken a page from PJ's The Two Towers by trying to make us worry about someone who isn't destined to die anytime soon.

What I hadn't expected was seeing the reach of Adar's influence. The Harfoots were a lot closer than I had anticipated and Orodruin's wrath destroyed their targeted orchard. I loved how this enabled The Stranger to fully gain the trust of the Harfoots and repair his damaged relationship with Nori...even if the healing of the orchard was for naught because The Dweller destroyed not just it but all of their carriages, too. :(

It's been a slow burn, but I loved seeing Elrond and Durin IV's friendship truly shine in this episode, brighter than the worries of Durin III...even if those worries are shown to be justified because BALROG!!!

One episode left and I have no idea how this show will be able to bring everything together satisfactorily while setting up season two, but I'm looking forward to see how it all plays out!
 
Orphalesion said:
Why would Celeborn be dead or believed to be dead? The backstory of them meeting in the First Age in Doriath is only mentioned in the Silmarillion, something the creators of this show have no rights to. So it seems more likely to me that in this version Galadriel and Celeborn haven't met yet.
I find it more likely that Galadriel will at some point travel north from the Southlands/Mordor to the Vales of Anduin and meet Celeborn there, possibly in the very future location of Lorien.
Though I really wonder whether they will show or mention Lorien, what with Lindon already made up to look pretty much exactly like Lorien (a golden woodland, and the leaves of the trees appear to be the same design they used for the Mallorn leaves in the movies) minus the giant trees.
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I'll put in spoilers because Galadriel references Celeborn in ep 7 which I'm guessing you didn't watch yet to reply that way.

Theo "Have you ever lost someone close, to 'them' (the orcs)

Galadriel: "My brother Finrod, and my husband Celeborn."

She says she made fun of his armor before he left and she never saw him again after that. So that's why I was thinking Isildur may end up captured and taken to wherever Celeborn is held since I very much doubt they would wreck canon by killing him.
 
Wow, another fantastic episode. After the action this week, this was definitely a more character based episode, and the whole cast really knocked it out of the park.
I think my favorite moment was the Harfoots all agreeing to go find The Stranger after he took off.
As for the three Mystics, I'm thinking they're going after The Stranger because he's a wizard and a threat to Sauron.
I was a little surprised they went the whole episode without the reveal that Isildur is alive, since there's no way they're going to actually kill him off. And I thought it was pretty clear that the whole reason Berec was freaking out when they tried to make him leave. I kept expecting him to show back up with Isildur at the end of the episodes. And yes, I was relieved to see that Galadriel's horse made it through the eruption at the end.
After the promo the other night, I was a little shocked we didn't get the Sauron reveal this week, but I realize now that there was a lot of other footage not in this episode, so it must have been for both this week's and next week's.
Definitely curious to see where they're going to take the conflict between III and IV. The relationship they've built up between Durin IV and Elrond has been a lot of fun, and it'll be interesting to see how far Durin is will to go against his father to save Elrond the rest of the elves.

Do we know yet what the end point of the series will be? Will we being all the way up to The Last Alliance, or just to the creation of The One Ring?
 
JD said:
Do we know yet what the end point of the series will be? Will we being all the way up to The Last Alliance, or just to the creation of The One Ring?
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If I were doing it I would have the armies lining up just like in the prologue and then end it. And then I would watch Fellowship of the Ring. I may not agree with all of the Rings of Power choices but I love the little bits of lore building woven throughout, as well as Elrond and Durin. Easily my favorite characters.
 
Tuskin38 said:
I thought Isildur and Elrond actually being in the mountain was made up for the movie?
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Yes, I believe that part was invented for dramatic effect IIRC. However, Sauron's mortal form was destroyed very close to Orodruin, so it's not unlikely. Actually, both Elrond and Círdan urged Isildur to destroy the Ring. He reigned for a couple of years before he loses both it and his life in the Orc ambush near the Gladden Fields.
 
I think that the meteor man might be Sauron and those three weirdos are his followers looking for him.

Sauron and Gandalf are both Maiar.
Maiar don't really die even when they get killed.
Remember Gandalf the grey came back as Gandalf the white after his supposely death.

I think Ardar did "kill" Sauron but Sauron came back to the earth and his people are now looking for him.

As for Halbrand, i initially thought that he was Sauron but now i think that he will be the King of the dead that Aragon meets in the future.

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CaptainWacky said:
I'm glad they put "MORDOR" on the screen in evil font at the end. I never would have been able to guess where the newly created evil land with the valcano was without that.
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Apparently, PJ has been so moved by this series that he's already started tinkering with new editions of the trilogy to better align with ROP.

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