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Sliders, that underrated 1990s sci-fi show

Arturo despises the French, Los Angeles, the Scots (except for their Scotch whiskey), Indian goodbyes, "New Age" mumbo jumbo...

I'm thinking it might be quicker to rattle off a list of things he doesn't dislike.
JRD's current posts might give you a good idea. Pity, liked him in early Sliders and the Incredible Robert Baldick (a Terry Nation pilot in 72 that starred JRD, Robert Hardy and Julian Holloway, but didn't go to series. Was unofficially remade a few years back on The Living and the Dead, one of many things from the 60s and 70s where the writers presumably thought noone else remembered their inspiration).
 
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I was at a comic con with my (ex) wife who was in a wheelchair. She had a service dog, and we'd frequently get asked by guests to come up to see them for free so they could see the dog, with her permission. They'd usually do photos with us as well. JRD was one of them, he stood behind my wife and I stood beside for the picture.

When we left, my wife turns to me and said "William! John Rhys Davies fingered me!"

I was like:
"....Say that again?"
"He fingered me! During the photo!"
"Uhhh.... I'm going to need you to be more specific. What, exactly, did he do?"
"Bend over, I'll show you!"
"... What?"
"Bend over!"

So I cautiously bent over and she reach up and tickled my ear lobe.

We then had a discussion about poor word choices.
 
I might be wrong but I think Sliders might have been the Sci-Fi channels first non-rerun show. They then expanded doing Farscape, New Stargate and Battlestar Galatica and so forth.
I'm too lazy to look it up, but that doesn't feel right. Remember First Wave? Was that before/after Sliders?
 
I'm too lazy to look it up, but that doesn't feel right. Remember First Wave? Was that before/after Sliders?

I think First Wave was a Canadian series that Sci-Fi bought into later as a co-producer. Wikipedia says season four of Sliders started airing first.
 
Wikipedia says The Sci-Fi Channel's first original scripted drama was Deepwater Black, which aired under the title Mission Genesis in the US. Although it was preceded by season 8 of Mystery Science Theater 3000, which I would count as scripted programming. Sliders season 4 was next, soon followed by the anthology show Welcome to Paradox and then First Wave. Then Farscape happened and things really took off.
 
That is correct. I watched Deepwater Black/MIssion Genesis. It is how I first noticed Nicole DeBoer and was excited when she got cast as Ezri on DS9. Also Mystery Science Theater on 3000 was awesome as well.

I tried First Wave but couldn't get into the show. Vaguely recall the title of Welcome to Paradox but don't remember it. Also at some point around this time didn't they also do the new Outer Limits? I remember the first episode even being the one about the smart ants that starred both Beau Bridges and Lloyd Bridges as well and also Beau's son. I think Jeff Bridges might have even been in it.
 
I loved Sliders at the start, so did my wife. It got weird and them lost me as it did others, but I'm feeling like I should go back and try it again.

It can't be as bad as Earth: Final Conflict had become...can it???
 
I loved Sliders at the start, so did my wife. It got weird and them lost me as it did others, but I'm feeling like I should go back and try it again.

It can't be as bad as Earth: Final Conflict had become...can it???

An advanced new born human being with a triple helix of DNA, force maturated to 27 years old, with an immediate perfect understanding of 21st century idioms, language, culture and technology...

Goes to the barber and requests frosted tips because he believes it will make him look awesome.

An advanced super intellect would NEVER do that.

A 3 month old in the appearance of a 27 year old might.

Liam Kincaid looked like a douche.

He looked like every sexy ex boyfriend that ever cheated on his girlfriend in a night club toilet stall.

I just wanted to see the episode where standing in a room of bloody corpses, Sandoval wins.
 
That is correct. I watched Deepwater Black/MIssion Genesis. It is how I first noticed Nicole DeBoer and was excited when she got cast as Ezri on DS9. Also Mystery Science Theater on 3000 was awesome as well.

I tried First Wave but couldn't get into the show. Vaguely recall the title of Welcome to Paradox but don't remember it. Also at some point around this time didn't they also do the new Outer Limits? I remember the first episode even being the one about the smart ants that starred both Beau Bridges and Lloyd Bridges as well and also Beau's son. I think Jeff Bridges might have even been in it.

The 90s Outer Limits started in 1995, and Welcome to Paradox was in 1997 I think.
 
SciFi Channel took THE OUTER LIMITS for their 7th season (final season), much in the same way they got SG-1 for their 6th season.
 
Love this show and every few years I do a rewatch. It's fun even including season 3 but after that I struggle to finish the run to the end. Season 4 and 5 I find a bit of a struggle to end.
 
Yeah, if they make it public, either through social media or the news or whatever, then it's fair to discuss it. The only time I really have a problem with it, is when it's stuff that came from places like TMZ or the tabloids, stuff that the person didn't talk about publicly.
 
I think you'll find that there are a lot of fans of the show (myself included) and that there have been many threads here on the show over the years.

True. I did look around, but didn't want to whip out the shovel to dig up a dead thread.

It's long since pruned but way back in the olden days (circa 2007ish maybe?), there was an long ongoing thread about the many behind-the-scenes issues, much of which came from TemporalFlux's extensive research on the topic (maybe even insider knowledge, I don't remember). It's a pity the thread (or threads since they couldn't be longer than 100 posts back then) no longer exists because I remember that being a huge eyeopener for me about how incredibly messy things got and how that effected the quality of the show and how certain actors left/fired (like John Rhys-Davies, Sabrina Lloyd, and Jerry O'Connell).

Definitely unfortunate, on all counts.

I haven't watched the show in many years but I remember loving the hell out of it, especially the first couple of years with the original cast. Some day I'll get back to it and watch it again.

After my next perennial "Red Dwarf" marathon it's next on my list as well. At least seasons 1, 2, and 5. :D I might give 3 and 4 another shot while pretending "Joe's Apartment" never got filmed.


Season 1 was good. Season 2 was decent, but suffered by the network's insistence that alternate history alone wasn't "sci-fi" enough and they had to throw in psychic powers and dinosaurs and random weirdness, which undermined the concept. Season 3 had some worthwhile stuff in the first half ("The Guardian" in particular), but degenerated into one of the worst things I've ever seen on television. The season 3 finale was an ordeal to watch.

The difference between season 2's use of dinosaurs and season 3's is as impressive as it was unexpected. With season 2 winning by a sizeable margin. And all due to Jerry O'Connell wanting to make "Joe's Apartment", allowing the other characters to carry the episode.

Hated the pseudo-scifi shoehorned into season 2 and 3. It did undermine the concept and didn't fit in.

I recall Tracy Torme hating the idea of the Kromaggs, especially as a recurring villain, which FOX wanted. I dunno. The introduction is utterly brilliant, if not choppy in one scene from what I recall. Torme fought to even have Bennish mentioned by name, but had to be content with sneaking in the actor and wiggle the dialogue just enough in hopes the audiences would realize.

Guardian and Double Cross definitely are the standouts, which almost feel out of place in what that season became. It didn't help that one of the stuntmen died while filming one of the most unoriginal, lamest episodes of that season. Wasted talent that didn't need to end so soon.

I recall Roger Daltry as stunt casting for "The Exodus", a story I couldn't believe was truly written by John Rhys-Davies, though I later read the script had been altered. He sorta made the show in ways none of the others could, despite each of them bringing something special to the table.

FOX also had a good recurring villain for Quinn via Logan St Claire, but never made use of her ever again.

Season 4 was excellent, much better than its reputation. I don't think I've ever seen a show sink so far yet rebound so well.

I'll have to rewatch it. I vaguely remember some episodes, but the new Kromaggs were as off-putting as they were over-relied on. Quinn now being special, instead of just a wanderer, was about as "nails on chalkboard" bad as season 3's changes too. And, of course, he has a little brother now to make it all more epic.

Sure, O'Connell's brother was a weak actor, and adding him to the show was pure nepotism and a bad idea. But season 4 brought in actual science fiction writers who knew what they were doing, so the concepts and storytelling were vastly improved from seasons 2-3. And the character work improved too. Kari Wuhrer's characterization was all but nonexistent in season 3, but in seasons 4-5, with good material to work with, Wuhrer proved for perhaps the first time in her career that she was actually a really good actress and not just a sexpot.

That's true. Kromaggs aside (IMHO), the show definitely felt like it was trying to undo season 3's missteps.

Season 5's writing wasn't as strong as season 4's, but I'd still put it above most of seasons 2 & 3. The circumstances that brought about the cast changes were unfortunate. But despite that, the season 5 ensemble cast really clicked and had a terrific rapport and chemistry. It seemed like they really enjoyed being together, so they were very enjoyable to watch.

5 was more hit or miss, but the cast's rapport was an easy win for me as well.
 
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