Spoilers 'Obi-Wan Kenobi' series [Spoiler Discussion]

[fireproof78]

Yikes! A series about people with their biggest claim to fame being blown to dust by a space station...

[Disney/Lucasfilm]"That's sounds like a winning idea! Start writing it!"[/Disney/Lucasfilm]

Do people even like things any more?

Seriously, I am one who is more often than not opposed to fan service but an Alderaan series actually making their sacrifice matter would be an excellent series. I enjoyed Obi-Wan, apparently a lot more than most people posting on the Internet. Safe to say it is one of my favorite Disney Star Wars series, and is actually working to surpass the ST for me.

Take that for what you will. An old fan enjoying something.

Leia.

Is autocorrect to blame, or are folks genuinely not bothering to check these days?

The second one.

 

[Aragorn]

This show actually sets up an alternate Star Wars timeline where Obi-Wan is about to turn off the Death Star tractor beam, then shrugs and decides he's done enough, and leaves.

 

[Crewman6]

Hoo kares?

Anyway, why did Kenobi bring Lola? I missed something I think.

Leia gave Lola to Obi Wan. Lola proceeded to do absolutely nothing. And then Obi Wan gave her back.

I thought they were setting up that Obi Wan was going to give the lil' droid to Luke, which would have been cute. But, oh well. Gotta connect the dots to that T-16 model, after all!

 

[Seven of Five]

Leia.

Is autocorrect to blame, or are folks genuinely not bothering to check these days?

Autocorrect is possibly the evilest thing in the world, I didn't catch it.

Some of my texts between friends are gibberish until I change them back. Though it's probably me talking gibberish to start off with.

 

[Campe]

Do people even like things any more?

Seems like being overly critical is where it’s at these days. More often than not, if I don’t like something, I’ll stop watching. Or if it’s a one off, I probably won’t watch it again. But hey, I guess I’m not cool or lit or whatever the word is these days. Obviously I’m out of touch.

 

[PCz911]

I've seen rumours that Millie Bobby Brown is in negotiations at Lucasfilm for a Leia centric project. I can see it, though given she's already almost as old as Carrie was in '76 that would mean it'd be a post ANH/pre tESB show, which just feels weird to me. I always assumed the way to go with a young Leia story would be her as a Senator/Rebel spy, though I guess 'Andor' may have that angle covered already. Probably nothing more than a rumour though.

oh goodness, I hope she’s not cast as Leila. A more over rated actor I can’t think of … she’s horrible (my opinion, mind you)

 

[Tuskin38]

Anyway, why did Kenobi bring Lola? I missed something I think.

Leia snuck it into his pocket.

Leia gave Lola to Obi Wan. Lola proceeded to do absolutely nothing. And then Obi Wan gave her back.

The point was the sentiment, it ties back to the conversation they had shortly before he took the escape craft.

 

[fireproof78]

Seems like being overly critical is where it’s at these days. More often than not, if I don’t like something, I’ll stop watching. Or if it’s a one off, I probably won’t watch it again. But hey, I guess I’m not cool or lit or whatever the word is these days. Obviously I’m out of touch.

Indeed. It seems there is some standard I have missed out on that I do not hold these shows up to. I guess that results in me watching it and enjoying it...my bad...

 

[Campe]

Indeed. It seems there is some standard I have missed out on that I do not hold these shows up to. I guess that results in me watching it and enjoying it...my bad...

Oh well. I’ll continue to be in the wrong, I suppose.

Seriously though, I get not enjoying something. But there comes a point where I have to say: Why consume the media if you don’t? There are some out there who are unbelievably negative towards Star Wars but continue to consume every single thing and hating every moment of it. Or so it seems. What’s the point? Are you afraid you’re going to miss out? Or is it just for show? I’m not necessarily speaking of people here but there’s raging negativity in a lot of fandoms. And while that might always have been the case, it seems pretty exacerbated these days.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

Do people even like things any more?

Seriously, I am one who is more often than not opposed to fan service but an Alderaan series actually making their sacrifice matter would be an excellent series.

The people of Alderaan did not need their lives explored--their death was to strike a devastating blow to Leia (and show just how evil the Empire was to the audience)--that was the purpose they were meant to serve. Not every reference or supporting character in Star Wars needs a fleshed out backstory.

oh goodness, I hope she’s not cast as Leila. A more over rated actor I can’t think of … she’s horrible (my opinion, mind you)

Agreed. Its as ridiculous a notion as that group of fans screaming for Sebastian Stan to be cast as Luke (and posting endless, Photoshopped pictures of Stan in Luke costumes to "sell" the idea).

 

[fireproof78]

Oh well. I’ll continue to be in the wrong, I suppose.

Seriously though, I get not enjoying something. But there comes a point where I have to say: Why consume the media if you don’t? There are some out there who are unbelievably negative towards Star Wars but continue to consume every single thing and hating every moment of it. Or so it seems. What’s the point? Are you afraid you’re going to miss out? Or is it just for show? I’m not necessarily speaking of people here but there’s raging negativity in a lot of fandoms. And while that might always have been the case, it seems pretty exacerbated these days.

Indeed. I see it similarly with Star Trek, but Star Wars is just as bad, with everything being analyzed to the point of sterility and disinterest and just complete lack of joy. I suppose it should come has no surprise then, given the frustration at things like Ewoks, the prequels and what not but it's just more sad to me now. The lack of joy.

The people of Alderaan did not need their lives explored--their death was to strike a devastating blow to Leia (and show just how evil the Empire was to the audience)--that was the purpose they were meant to serve. Not every reference or supporting character in Star Wars needs a fleshed out backstory.

There is no need for Star Wars. None, zero, zilch. Discard it and life goes on, perhaps more merrily. But, would we actually care about Alderaan in more than just the abstract? I'd say it's worth a shot. But there is no need there. None. Star Wars should vanish if it is about need.

 

[Amaris]

What a solid ending. I enjoyed the series overall, but that ending really nailed it, IMO. I'd always wanted to see Obi-Wan at the top of his game, in a match against Vader, and this was it, and I was not disappointed!

 

[Disco]

Awesome series and they really landed the ending. It really added depth to Alderaan, Kenobi, Leia and what was happening between ROTS and ANH.

 

[David cgc]

There is no need for Star Wars. None, zero, zilch. Discard it and life goes on, perhaps more merrily. But, would we actually care about Alderaan in more than just the abstract? I'd say it's worth a shot. But there is no need there. None. Star Wars should vanish if it is about need.

When musing on the ever-less-likely possibility of "The Prequels [Good Version]," one idea I had was a much bigger role for Bail Organa and Alderaan, so that an audience watching in chronological order* would have Leia's loss land, and would also have a real sense of peril for Obi-Wan and company, since they're going to their old refuge without knowing it's been obliterated.

*Also important to this concept, Obi-Wan's second, red-herring apprentice who would be strongly implied, but never conclusively shown, to be Darth Vader, something the Darths & Droids webcomic actually pulled off.

 

[Mage]

I am a simple idiot that actually dares to get entertainment out of tv shows and movies these days instead of overanalyzing the living fucknugget out of them so I can post long rants about how I would know better on some forum.

So yeah, fucking loved this show. That's all I gotta say

 

[jackoverfull]

I liked the finale, the fight was well done and Reva’s story works for me.

I agree that a second season is going to be difficult to do: where do you go from here? I feel it shouldn’t involve any meeting between Kenobi and anakin and it’s going to be difficult to do something interesting. Perhaps involve reva’s redemption?

Only doubt: why didn’t Vader follow Kenobi in a a tie or something while the destroyer dealt with the rebels, especially as he intended to go alone anyway? In fact, where are the ties?! Or the star destroyer when obi-wan leaves the planet?

Leaving your opponent alive when he’s defeated is definitely a pattern both for Ben and Vader by now.

 

[fireproof78]

I agree that a second season is going to be difficult to do: where do you go from here? I feel it shouldn’t involve any meeting between Kenobi and anakin and it’s going to be difficult to do something interesting. Perhaps involve reva’s redemption?

I mean, I would think the other Inquisitors could serve as problems, as well as other Dark Side users, especially around the Outer Rim. Obi-Wan occasionally lending a hand to the underground railroad, finding ways to do Jedi work without calling attention to himself, helping out the people of Tatooine. Lots of ways that could be interesting.

 

[Starkers]

I really enjoyed it, yes it could be clunky in places (where'd the Star Destroyer go? How did Obi Wan get to Tatooine so fast?) but there was a lot to enjoy. The lightsabre duel was infinitely better than the CGI heavy platform level in ROTS, the girl playing Leia continued to be amazing. Owen and especially Beru were great, and we finally see Qui Gon! Reva was somewhat sidelined but her story had a point, be interesting to see what she does next. And of course McGregor was great.

I still think a second season could be a hard sell.

 

[Yistaan]

I liked the finale, the fight was well done and Reva’s story works for me.

I agree that a second season is going to be difficult to do: where do you go from here? I feel it shouldn’t involve any meeting between Kenobi and anakin and it’s going to be difficult to do something interesting. Perhaps involve reva’s redemption?

Only doubt: why didn’t Vader follow Kenobi in a a tie or something while the destroyer dealt with the rebels, especially as he intended to go alone anyway? In fact, where are the ties?! Or the star destroyer when obi-wan leaves the planet?

Leaving your opponent alive when he’s defeated is definitely a pattern both for Ben and Vader by now.

If Kenobi decided here that killing Vader wasn't the Jedi way or whatever and wouldn't go through with it, why is he telling Luke in ROTJ to do exactly that? What he himself had the chance to do but didn't? Why force Luke through the burden of killing his dad and not just do it himself?

 

[Crewman6]

I liked the finale, the fight was well done and Reva’s story works for me.

I agree that a second season is going to be difficult to do: where do you go from here? I feel it shouldn’t involve any meeting between Kenobi and anakin and it’s going to be difficult to do something interesting. Perhaps involve reva’s redemption?

Only doubt: why didn’t Vader follow Kenobi in a a tie or something while the destroyer dealt with the rebels, especially as he intended to go alone anyway? In fact, where are the ties?! Or the star destroyer when obi-wan leaves the planet?

Leaving your opponent alive when he’s defeated is definitely a pattern both for Ben and Vader by now.

They should have had Vader take his personal TIE to the planet just to give that cool ship a quick cameo.

And they should have had Obi Wan steal it when he left. Abandoning Vader to stew for a little longer and it would have avoided logical problems with the shuttle having hyperdrive while its mothership did not.

If that was they case, why didn't they at least try to cram some of the refugees in it? Or cannibalize its hyperdrive to save the bigger ship?

And why did such a dinky shuttle manage to get back to Tatooine in a span of literally five minutes or less?

Having Obi Wan steal a Vader TIE (or his Imperial shuttle) would have been a cool moment and resolved any issues.