Only people with severe traumas in youth even sign up for Starfleet. Most wouldn't bother.
I still think it's better than breaking windows. Maybe Seven and Raffi find that Borg Jurati spent all night playing video games to get a dopamine fix.
Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 2x07 - "Monsters"
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Go to your room and think about what you did.
That's actually a part of the screening.Only people with severe traumas in youth even sign up for Starfleet. Most wouldn't bother.
Raffi: I think I found Jurati! Let me track this IP address.
Seven: Wait what?
Raffi: There's a new player making all the waves on the videogame Fortnite just well, overnight. Showed up and slaughtered all other 99 players in less than a minute, only message from this player over chat is "Resistance is futile". Screenname is Species5618.
Seven: Blast, it is her!!! She must be building dopamine via gaming.
Seven: Wait what?
Raffi: There's a new player making all the waves on the videogame Fortnite just well, overnight. Showed up and slaughtered all other 99 players in less than a minute, only message from this player over chat is "Resistance is futile". Screenname is Species5618.
Seven: Blast, it is her!!! She must be building dopamine via gaming.
When I saw that shrink I thought it was Section 31 having its hands in it. O'Brien used to stick around in Sloan's mind after all....
No it's not encouraging. Unless these new viewers gravitate to the better written Star Trek and the writers see that as evidence of not just needing to throw us older fans a bone now and then, we're gonna be inundated with even more surface storytelling.
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That was not as bad or as cringey as I was expecting a "voyage into Picard's subconscious" to be. James Callis as Picard's father was an interesting choice. And honestly the more I see of Young Guinan the more I like her.
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You say that, but we all know you're not going anywhere.
It’s a television (and sometimes movie) franchise that’s going down new paths because the old ones have been gone down way too many times. Not a favorite grandma who died. 
Picard Season 2 isn't dark, Prodigy isn't dark, Lower Decks isn't dark. Strange New Worlds looks like it isn't going to be dark, Discovery Season 4 wasn't dark.
DS9 was darker than all these.
She was MUCH better this episode. In fact, she was almost more Guinan-like than Whoopi herself was in episode 1.
Bye, Felicia!
A show that once exemplified the highest aspirations of human potential, helping to reassure us that, for all our flaws and struggles, there's still something inherently good and noble about the human spirit, now acts as a dark, depressing mirror for all the worst aspects of whatever passes for modern culture. Farewell, Star Trek.
Near the beginning 'The human soul has a dark corner, the universe, which is its reflection.'
Near the ending ‘The universe has a dark corner, the human soul, which is its reflection.’
A Space for Reflection.
That's where we are.
The go-go New Frontier, better-living-through-chemistry, put a man-on-the-moon War on Poverty '60s to the
Q-anon, extremist, ice caps melting, social media shaming '20s.
So, as you might have noticed I'm from another era. I can't stand a lot about our culture.
In the past I've pointed out on the BBS someone else's observation comparing the Gene Wilder bright and joyful Wonka film to the Depp one: HERE's is the EXPLANATION of WIlly's dark and twisted past and why he's so weird and dark now. Instead of giving us an emigmatic, yes weird, but also joyful Wilder-Wonka who does a somersault and whose face lights up when Charlie fesses up to his theft.
So now we have the fairly put-together hero (with yes, some idiosyncrasies -- that flute, and archeology, and not getting too close to people) now being deconstructed and getting into his mommy/daddy issues when 7 years of shows and 4 flicks never had this come up.
Boo. Says me. Writers, you had a mystery going that I was actually interested in. I hate mysteries and convoluted plots. But what the hell is going on here? Is Q actually the good guy? Are Our Heroes actually making things worse? Borg Queen took off walking at the end of the previous ep. Soong's daughter/thing found out he's a MAD SCIENTIST muwahahaha (I disliked this turn, but whatevs) . . . and you drop all that to do some dumb BS Catspaw Freudian backstory for WHY Picard is . . . I don't know . . . distant? He's never seemed all that messed up to me.
Ug.
The go-go New Frontier, better-living-through-chemistry, put a man-on-the-moon War on Poverty '60s to the
Q-anon, extremist, ice caps melting, social media shaming '20s.
So, as you might have noticed I'm from another era. I can't stand a lot about our culture.
In the past I've pointed out on the BBS someone else's observation comparing the Gene Wilder bright and joyful Wonka film to the Depp one: HERE's is the EXPLANATION of WIlly's dark and twisted past and why he's so weird and dark now. Instead of giving us an emigmatic, yes weird, but also joyful Wilder-Wonka who does a somersault and whose face lights up when Charlie fesses up to his theft.
So now we have the fairly put-together hero (with yes, some idiosyncrasies -- that flute, and archeology, and not getting too close to people) now being deconstructed and getting into his mommy/daddy issues when 7 years of shows and 4 flicks never had this come up.
Boo. Says me. Writers, you had a mystery going that I was actually interested in. I hate mysteries and convoluted plots. But what the hell is going on here? Is Q actually the good guy? Are Our Heroes actually making things worse? Borg Queen took off walking at the end of the previous ep. Soong's daughter/thing found out he's a MAD SCIENTIST muwahahaha (I disliked this turn, but whatevs) . . . and you drop all that to do some dumb BS Catspaw Freudian backstory for WHY Picard is . . . I don't know . . . distant? He's never seemed all that messed up to me.
Ug.
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Clearly some fans forget a certain show called DS9 that ran from 1993 to 1999. Hardly and even in the most uplifting and silly circumstances was it offered up as the brightest and most hopeful series in the franchise. Religious extremism and political machinations that would make Machiavelli proud, internecine warfare between Federation citizens over the concepts of freedom and home, a war spanning two quadrants of the galaxy with the highest death toll in the recorded history of this universe and a finale that involved mass genocide and the battle between good and noncorporeal entities who'd possessed the body of the lead villain.
Why can't it be for both? Also, are we to believe that a show that has a trailer advertising the return of Q and the TNG cast is not for the traditional Star Trek fan?
Some are upset about the 2024 setting taking so long, and I do share in that somewhat but I think it's because the setting could be compelling and the issue is that for many of us it no longer is. I love many other shows that are not set in space or not science fiction so I don't think that is the primary issue.
Agree with that. Which is why I get confused when certain people always complain that the new shows are, and I quote, "grimdark"
For what it's worth I like the 2024 stuff. But so many on here seem to hate it.
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Your punishment only gives me more time to think up new things to say.
I see you use the cooleddie method. Good.