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Carbon-free fusion power could be ‘on the grid in 15 years’

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-00391-1

JET hit .3 of Q for five seconds. JET is 1970's technology (With upgrades) and was never really meant to do what they are making it do now was not originally capable of what it can do now, but as it is handing the torch on tokamak research to ITER. I don't necessraily think that tokamaks are how fusion power will ultimately play out, but they scale, and this was probably the best demonstration yet that ITER will at least surpass breakeven once it is running.
 
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I'm in the same camp, I don't think viable Nuclear Fusion Reactors will be here until 2140, not 2040.

We're still too early in the stages of Fusion Reactor Research IMO to get a working viable commercial unit.
 
Follow the money. If someone could find a way to make a viable commercial fusion plant in the short term, it would kill off long-term research almost instantly. That hasn't happened.
 
Follow the money. If someone could find a way to make a viable commercial fusion plant in the short term, it would kill off long-term research almost instantly. That hasn't happened.
ITER research consumed so much funding with little short term gain, even from a pure research angle that it forced anything non-tokomac related into finding private investors, for the most part. Examples against are NIF which regardless of some interesting results, is and always did have a weapons testing testing raison d'etre. JET was repurposed to support ITER and other large projects like the Z-machine I haven't heard much about in years.

The polywell tests funded by Bussard proved at least part of the concept but then .. nothing.
What we're left with are a few very well funded commercial projects all of which are getting pretty closer than the tiresome "10 years and always will be ha ha" thing.

TAE, Genera Fusion, Helion, Commonwealth, and a maybe one or two others (there;s no clue where LockMart is on this anymore or even how serious they really were) are all either fully funded or have significant funding.

In the west, again not counting NIF as its role in weapons testing can't be divorced from it, the large scale fusion experiments are so tied to long standing government programs that unfunding them would be almost unthinkable. AT some point soon JET might be shut down perhaps, and if it has no military use, likewise for Z-Machine. But even if one of the commercial ventures started keeping their own lights lit in the next few years by an internal reactor I don't think it would have any effect on long term ITER or Wendlestein funding.

The general public, in that it cares at all, has been spooned and drip fed and force enema'd that fusion is unworkable for so long that they regard the large research projects as worthwhile, like a particle accelerator : not immanently useful but nothing to try to get cancelled, but of little practical value. The researchers involved in ITER know that groups like LPP, CHina's EAST, and Helion have reached temperature thresholds and containment records that, again, many thought would not be crossed until ITER was ready. What do they care? It's good research, benefits them as well, and regardless of what happens, their careers and retirements are already set.

If I sound anti-ITER, I am. I think multiple countries going all-in on a Big Science approach to fusion that was planned to take decades was a terrible mistake. It didn't matter if it failed or had success. Expectations were already suitably dialed down and pushed into childrens' lifetimes. Governments could toss money into that furnace to look like something was being done, without having to over-commit on a project no one was entirely sold on. I suspect ITER will work. The most recent results from JET indicate so. I don't think it will lead to a single worthwhile practical power-plant design. The world is already moving on.
 
For now I'd put more research into Thorium fission, could be the much needed powersource that will make us able to bridge the gap between fossil and renewable.
 
nice basic article on IEEE on how NASA's lattice confinement fusion experiment works
https://spectrum.ieee.org/lattice-confinement-fusion

I get why NASA is wanting to be circumspect on this. Cold Fusion has been the dominion of con artists and the insane since Pons and Fleishmann's experiment was discredited. Good research careers go into this and die. (and in fairness, ICF is NOT cold fusion, but it will get called that, nonetheless). But NASA and the Navy, as well as a few labs in China and Japan have continued the research on lower initial energy fusion experiements, in NASA's case at least since working on Widom-Larson theory last decade. This LCF does not appear to be the kind of thing that you can power cities by, but does look useful for limited uses, especially on long distance space probes, if they can get the reactions to sustain.
 
If they can get a sustainable reaction what do you think the first big use of actual fusion will be? Where do you think they'll be using the first reactors?
 
If they can get a sustainable reaction what do you think the first big use of actual fusion will be? Where do you think they'll be using the first reactors?
it would be useful for the lunar program. Solar is problematic on the moon. If it works, it might open up the outer solar system to more probes. Those RTG's used on things like Voyagers, Galileo and New Horizons are extremely expensive and take a lot of time and difficulty to work with.
 
Solar should work just fine on the Moon, especially if set up in suitable polar locations and/or using energy storage to cope with the 14-day nights. It's a simple, well-understood technology.

An RTG is also simple - a radioactive fission heat source with thermoelectric generation. The expense is sourcing and handling radioactive materials. The electricity generation side is cheap.

Fusion reactors for deep space exploration are farther in the future than for commercial energy generation. The technology is barely in its infancy and it's expensive to research, develop, build, and maintain.

Fission reactors are more feasible in the short term but likely too politically sensitive, of course.
 
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