Spoilers Season 2 Trailers, Previews, and Promos

[CorporalClegg]

I assume there will be something like that. The way Ryan grimaced when she said 'resistance' during the speech was the best little bit of acting in the whole episode. And really makes me think they're setting-up a scene where she has to relive some old trauma.

 

[Tuskin38]

I have a feeling the trade-off for whatever restoration of the timeline they make is going to include a restoration of the Borg as a galactic threat again.

IMO, I think Q did what he did because of how the Federation reacted to the Borg's overture for peace.

They showed fear in the face of a former enemy wanting peace. So he made a reality where Humanity always reacted to fear of the unknown. Where they always attack first.

Like in Encounter at Farpoint.

 

[SG-17]

I have a feeling the trade-off for whatever restoration of the timeline they make is going to include a restoration of the Borg as a galactic threat again. Something like Q will say the Borg are the galactic clearing house that assimilates a species once it's grown too large so that other smaller nascent species will have a chance to grow instead. The Borg are a brutal but necessary part of maintaining the galactic ecosystem, which is why Q told his son not to mess with the Borg.

Maybe, but maybe they also are supposed to wax and wane too. If we take the Vaadwaur at face value the Borg were essentially nothing around the 16th century.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

Maybe, but maybe they also are supposed to wax and wane too. If we take the Vaadwaur at face value the Borg were essentially nothing around the 16th century.

The two concepts aren't contradictory. There's an ebb and flow between them that maintains a balance. If a species or coalition grows too strong and expends too far, the Borg take them down. If the Borg grow too strong and expand too far, a species or coalition take them down. Lather, rinse, repeat.

That's why the Borg have more origin stories than the Joker. They've been "hobbled" and defeated too many times to count but always leave behind the means to reboot themselves and start the process all over again.

 

[IMC Headquarters]

Fried Green Torpedoes. Game over!

I am in awe of Annie Wersching's talent. I loved her in Timeless, but here she's elevated her game tenfold. Wow.

 

[trek.]

Awesome. I'm liking the music callbacks to the Borg eps in VOY and FC.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

IMO, I think Q did what he did because of how the Federation reacted to the Borg's overture for peace.

They showed fear in the face of a former enemy wanting peace. So he made a reality where Humanity always reacted to fear of the unknown. Where they always attack first.

Like in Encounter at Farpoint.

But are the Borg doing that because they've evolved and want to be better, or are they doing because they're desperate and don't have any other choice? If they are partially reestablished to a significant fraction of their former strength by the changes in the timeline, will they still pursue peaceful coexistence or return to the old ways?

There was nothing inherently wrong with the way Picard and Seven reacted to the Borg Queen's behavior. Even though she requested Picard by name and not Locutus, and fired stun bolts instead of fatal shots or assimilating the crew (which they did tell the crew to stop firing once they realized), her actions were still overtly hostile: coming onto the bridge by force despite being told not to, seizing control of the Stargazer's bridge systems, seizing control of the entire fleet, not stating her true intentions up front, saying "PICARD!" all creepy as shit in that Marilyn Manson meets Shinzon BDSM get-up. She should know how they would react to those actions.

 

[gweeps]

IMO, I think Q did what he did because of how the Federation reacted to the Borg's overture for peace.

They showed fear in the face of a former enemy wanting peace. So he made a reality where Humanity always reacted to fear of the unknown. Where they always attack first.

Like in Encounter at Farpoint.

Weren't Picard and Jurati the only ones who wanted to hear the Borg out?

 

[ThreeEdgedSword]

Is there an episode 3 teaser/ trailer anywhere (not US-only) that hasn't been withdrawn? I'm confused...

ETA: Nvm, found it!

 

[Romulan_spy]

her actions were still overtly hostile: coming onto the bridge by force despite being told not to, seizing control of the Stargazer's bridge systems, seizing control of the entire fleet, not stating her true intentions up front, saying "PICARD!" all creepy as shit in that Marilyn Manson meets Shinzon BDSM get-up. She should know how they would react to those actions.

Yes but that was after Rios raises shields and forcefully warns the Borg not to beam over the queen. These Borg were asking for help. And the queen says they need power. They might have been barely surviving and pretty desperate. Maybe they would have been less hostile if the Federation had been more open. But when Rios raises shields and warns the queen not to beam over, he made their intentions clear. These Borg might have felt they had no choice but to take the power they needed by force.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

Yes but that was after Rios raises shields and forcefully warns the Borg not to beam over the queen. These Borg were asking for help. And the queen says they need power. They might have been barely surviving and pretty desperate. Maybe they would have been less hostile if the Federation had been more open. But when Rios raises shields and warns the queen not to beam over, he made their intentions clear. These Borg might have felt they had no choice but to take the power they needed by force.

The Borg could have continued speaking to Picard in exactly the same manner they already were doing without violating the completely reasonable and defensive steps of raising shields and not permitting the Borg Queen to board their ship, the reason why coming mere seconds after she boarded and started syphoning power, tearing the ship apart judging by all the sparks and explosions and shaking, phasering the crew (stun setting notwithstanding) and trying to take control of the Stargazer and the rest of the fleet. These are not defensive actions.

 

[Romulan_spy]

The Borg could have continued speaking to Picard in exactly the same manner they already were doing without violating the completely reasonable and defensive steps of raising shields and not permitting the Borg Queen to board their ship, the reason why coming mere seconds after she boarded and started syphoning power, tearing the ship apart judging by all the sparks and explosions and shaking, phasering the crew (stun setting notwithstanding) and trying to take control of the Stargazer and the rest of the fleet. These are not defensive actions.

Oh I agree the actions would have definitely been perceived as hostile by the Federation. I was just trying to offer a possible alternative explanation for them.

 

[Romulan_spy]

I would add that while it was certainly understandable for Picard and co to see the Borg action's as hostile and they would certainly appear hostile to any reasonable observer, it is also possible that Q was expecting/hoping that Picard would evolve in his thinking, and be willing to look beyond the hostility, to consider the "possibilities of existence" as he says in "All Good Things". So Q considers Picard to have failed the test by not rising above his innate fears and prejudices towards the Borg.

 

[Admiral Picard]

What a terrifying and awesome scene with the Borg Queen. This is some real horror $#!+ !

And I love the FC Borg theme. Fits so perfectly.

 

[Tuskin38]

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[NewHeavensNewEarth]

Nice to see I was right with predicting the warp 10 slingshot maneuver in our Zoom chat last Saturday! @Muji @Captain Moe @NCC-73515

 

[Timofnine]

Wow! An amazing homage to ‘The Voyage Home’! I also love how the Borg Queen is now a part of the crew. This is actually quite epic and ground breaking if you think about it! Star Trek continues to push new barriers and is boldly going where no Star Trek show has gone before!

I hope that the Borg Queen doesn’t let me down and start assimilating everyone though! I wonder if she will be granted a field commission? Navigation? helm?

 

[F. King Daniel]

If they're slingshotting, does that mean WEIRD TRIPPY STIV GRAPHICS???

 

[The Wormhole]

There had better be.

 

[Tuskin38]

Discovery kinda played homage to that in both Season 1 and Season 2.

We do see a bit of blurry in one shot in this trailer.