How can future shows retcon the errors of Star Trek Picard?

[The Wormhole]

Super same. The solution to prevent potential corruption by providing a new, direct avenue for corruption through wild overreach is one of the most anti-Trek notions ‪‪I can imagine.

Indeed. This is in fact the very scenario many Trek episodes tell cautionary tales to condemn.

The UFP / Government can't randomly scan you.

You really don't get it, do you? By employing telepathic thought police in any capacity, you're creating a slippery slope which will eventually lead to average ordinary citizens being randomly scanned and incarcerated for not thinking proper thoughts.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

You really don't get it, do you? By employing telepathic thought police in any capacity, you're creating a slippery slope which will eventually lead to average ordinary citizens being randomly scanned and incarcerated for not thinking proper thoughts.

Fine, then give me a solution to solve the Infiltrator problem?

What can we do to prevent the issue from ever happening again?

The citizenry are demanding perfection. Doesn't matter that it's not realistic. They don't care.

The citizens are holding us "Public Servants" to unattainable perfection or else.

I'm more than happy to use Time Travel to fix problems.

What can you do? What solutions will you think of?

 

[The Wormhole]

Fine, then give me a solution to solve the Infiltrator problem?

What can we do to prevent the issue from ever happening again?

It can't. As I said earlier, most modern day governments accept spying is a thing that happens and will always happen. The Federation will likely operate under the same mentality. And that's fine.

The citizenry are demanding perfection. Doesn't matter that it's not realistic. They don't care.

The citizens are holding us "Public Servants" to unattainable perfection or else.

The citizens can register their displeasure with the government the same way it's done in every democracy, by voting against the incumbents.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

It can't. As I said earlier, most modern day governments accept spying is a thing that happens and will always happen. The Federation will likely operate under the same mentality. And that's fine.

And if the citizenry claims that isn't good enough? They want more drastic measures to happen?

Then what?

Will you allow Time Travel to go back in time to fix things?

There's 92,143 UFP Citizen's lives missing. That's 92,143 people who won't be at their families dinner tables for the rest of their lives. Countless more Romulan citizens who will eventually be lost to the Super Nova.

You have the tech, you know the perpetrator, you know what they did.

What's the hold up?

The citizens can register their displeasure with the government the same way it's done in every democracy, by voting against the incumbents.

So basically, you're telling the citizenry to sod off since you know they can't do anything until election time.

 

[Tuskin38]

Time travel is way too dangerous

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

Time travel is way too dangerous

Yet our protagonists in ST have done it countless times.

There's even a proper Temporal Division in the future.

As of 2378, there are 40 some occaisions noted by the UFP of Time Travel.

In the 25th century, time travel was mostly possible but still risky

As of the 26th century, historians and anthropologists used time-pods to travel through time to observe historical events.

In the 29th century, the Federation had the ability to scan time as well as space, and travel back (and presumably forward) in time to attempt to fix issues and anomalies.

In the 31st century, time travel was commonplace. Federation temporal agents from this time became involved in a Temporal Cold War, which eventually led to temporal wars. After these wars, time travel was banned and the technology used to travel in time was destroyed.

The biggest mistake was destroying Time Travel tech after the Temporal Wars.

 

[fireproof78]

Time travel destroyed would be the best thing to happen to Star Trek, or science fiction in general.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

Time travel destroyed would be the best thing to happen to Star Trek, or science fiction in general.

We're going to have to agree to disagree.

I love Time Travel, it's one of the funnest concepts in Sci-Fi in general and Star Trek.

 

[BillJ]

What can we do to prevent the issue from ever happening again?

You can’t. Sometimes perfect storms happen and there is nothing that can be done to stop them.

The damndest thing about life is that no one gets out alive.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Time travel is a pandoras box. Why not prevent WWII? Where do you draw the line?

 

[The Old Mixer]

The damndest thing about life is that no one gets out alive.

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[EnderAKH]

As an anxiety sufferer with an outsized death anxiety, I cannot imagine the existential dread of wondering each day if THAT was the day my existence was snuffed out because of some state sanctioned time traveller going back to "fix" something 50 years before I was born. No thank you.

 

[shapeshifter]

^ You may have just solved millions of Missing Person cases.

 

[SJGardner]

I'd myself just use time travel to savescum my way through my life, constantly reloading every time a dialogue option doesn't lead to the outcome I expected. I'm gonna find the right thing to say to my high school crush, dammit, no matter how many people get deleted from existence through the ripple effect!

 

[The Wormhole]

Whereas I'd just use time travel to cheat at the lottery.

I'm sure some form of lottery exists in the Trek future. Even if it is Ferengi lottery, which I'm sure gets the shit taxed out of it to the point the winners don't take home anything extravagant at all.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

Time travel is a pandoras box. Why not prevent WWII? Where do you draw the line?

The effects should be limited to ones own life and not somebody elses or events that are on larger scales like WW1/2/3.

Nobody cares if you wanted to save scumm your way through life, that's a personal choice.

Nobody cares if you want to figure out what were the perfect words to ask your HS crush.

Those are trivial matters in the grand scheme of Space-Time.

If you want to mess with the Ferengi Lottery, that's fine. I'm sure that Lottery is rigged to begin with.

 

[EnderAKH]

The effects should be limited to ones own life and not somebody elses or events that are on larger scales like WW1/2/3.

Nobody cares if you wanted to save scumm your way through life, that's a personal choice.

Nobody cares if you want to figure out what were the perfect words to ask your HS crush.

Those are trivial matters in the grand scheme of Space-Time.

If you want to mess with the Ferengi Lottery, that's fine. I'm sure that Lottery is rigged to begin with.

They are not trivial matters to the potential children with another person, of said lost love. Nor to their potential partner who may have found their optimum mate only to have their bond erased from existence because someone couldn't move on.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

They are not trivial matters to the potential children with another person, of said lost love. Nor to their potential partner who may have found their optimum mate only to have their bond erased from existence because someone couldn't move on.

Those are the dangers of Time Travel for personal reasons, but they aren't World Engulfing like WW1/2/3.

The magnitude of effects down the time stream are far smaller and more localized.

At the end of the day, the person chooses who they love, time travel can only get you so far.

The other person needs to love you back, words will only go so far.

One set of children may exist if the other person mates with you and produces off-spring.

Another set of children may exist if the other person mates with somebody else.

A totally different set of children may exist if the other person mates with both you and the other person.

Who knows.

That's the beauty of the road not traveled.

 

[SJGardner]

Those are the dangers of Time Travel for personal reasons, but they aren't World Engulfing like WW1/2/3.

The magnitude of effects down the time stream are far smaller and more localized.

At the end of the day, the person chooses who they love, time travel can only get you so far.

The other person needs to love you back, words will only go so far.

One set of children may exist if the other person mates with you and produces off-spring.

Another set of children may exist if the other person mates with somebody else.

A totally different set of children may exist if the other person mates with both you and the other person.

Who knows.

That's the beauty of the road not traveled.

It does matter when one set of offsprings results in Starfleet Captain Kathryn Janeway and the other in award-winning holowriter Jonathan Janeway, which leads to Starship Voyager being commanded by Andorian Captain Esalla Zh'sholnoss instead, who decides to use the Caretaker Array to get home at the first opportunity, which leads to the Kazon eradicating the Ocampa and ending up with the Caretaker's technology enabling them to rampage across the entire region, or the Krenim Imperium continuing to merrily erase anyone they fancy from the timeline until Species 8472 manages to eradicate the Borg and begins systematically eradicating all sentient life in the galaxy; and even if they are somehow stopped, then Henry Starling blowing up the entire Sol system in the 29th century when Voyager's not there to stop his attempt to steal technology from the future.

 

[BillJ]

The magnitude of effects down the time stream are far smaller and more localized.

That is the whole danger of time travel. You don't know what is and what isn't important to the time stream. Until you actually change it.

Take Captain Christopher from "Tomorrow is Yesterday". Without further research, they take him back to a future where he never had a son that led the first Saturn mission. Or Edith Keeler, whose death is prevented by McCoy and wipes out the timeline where the Federation is formed.

Sometimes you just have to live and realize life is full of risks that you can't wish away.