SNW uniforms and characters revealed (old and new)

[137th Gebirg]

It did cross my mind to reference that.

My memory could be off but I thought he stole embryos and bred the ones in Ent?

As I say, the names were always just very very closely aligned

Yeah, come to think of it, I honestly can't remember how that all played out. I do recall them calling Soong "father", but the details elude me after 20 years.

Data's family line really did enjoy playing God, didn't they?

He does. That's why I mentioned Piper first. But M'Benga clearly serves under one or both.

So this might make for some interesting backstory. Many folks are convinced that M'Benga is going to be CMO. If this is hypothetically true, then what happened when McCoy came on board? Did he arrive at the request of Kirk (similar to what happened later in TMP?) Did this royally piss M'Benga off, which is why he always seemed to have an insanely large chip on his shoulder in Galileo 7? For decades I never understood his shitty attitude, but would we see the rationale behind that? Did he feel like he was completely overlooked and usurped after Pike left Enterprise? I'm really kind of curious about that one now.

 

[cooleddie74]

Yeah, the Augments in ENT called Arik Soong "Father" even when they were mad at and plotting against him.

 

[Mudd]

I presume M'Benga is the junior filling in until Piper arrives as the new CMO. It wouldn't make much sense otherwise.

Makes sense just fine with M'Benga as CMO.

 

[Iamnotspock]

Perhaps Piper will be a recurring character. Culber wasn't actually the CMO in DSC S1 and S2.

 

[cooleddie74]

Piper could be off in his main office on the ship filing paperwork and patient information and we won't see him very often at all. Face it, we didn't see Nurse Chapel all that often, either and she's often included as one of the most important recurring characters on TOS.

 

[captainkirk]

Piper could be off in his main office on the ship filing paperwork and patient information and we won't see him very often at all.

Now I'm imagining a situation like the dental office I used to go to where the older guy who owned it no longer did any dental work himself and would just kind of stand around and watch as the junior dentists did all the work.

 

[Kelso]

Did this royally piss M'Benga off, which is why he always seemed to have an insanely large chip on his shoulder in Galileo 7?

You're conflating M'Benga and Boma.

 

[Mudd]

We all know the real reason Piper isn't in SNW...

 

[Yistaan]

Boyce just kept drinking on the job. It'll be a running joke.

"Dr. M'Benga, where's Dr. Boyce?"

"He's off having a drink, I'll handle your medical issues"

 

[cooleddie74]

He got thrown back in time to late 19th century Earth and lived out the rest of his life in the American West.

 

[Paul755]

I just hope they do there own thing. Tell there own stories .. Not reliy on Tos like a crutch.

Kurtzman-Trek constantly goes out of its way to reboot or just flat out erase TOS so I wouldn’t worry about them using it as a crutch for anything.

 

[137th Gebirg]

You're conflating M'Benga and Boma.

Ah! Quite right, thank you for the correction. It's been so long since I've seen those episodes, many of them meld together.

 

[cooleddie74]

Come to think of it I always wanted to see Boma again.

 

[Scionz]

Hell, even the first episode of TNG said that Data graduated in the Starfleet Academy "Class of '78."

Yeah but that was from that early time in the first half of Season 1 when "The Next Generation" was to be taken literally by production staff and viewers (the show was thought to be around 2318 or so). We didn't get a Gregorian year until "The Neutral Zone" at the end of the season.

Every Star Trek Season 1, and often time Season 2, has these weird continuity quirks that get retconned once the show finds its legs in Season 3 and 4. We also got:
-Klingons joining the Federation (famously).
-Lieutenant Tuvok having a Lt. Commander rank
-Chakotay going grey and everyone pronouncing his name weird.
-Neelix being this weird possessive creepy guy.
-Most of Season 1 DS9 Rom
-Pretty much everything about Odo until the start of Season 3.

 

[Mudd]

Yeah but that was from that early time in the first half of Season 1 when "The Next Generation" was to be taken literally by production staff and viewers

No.

From the very first publicity and in the first draft of the Writer/Directors Guide, TNG was established to be "one hundred years after the original crew."

This also why Admiral McCoy was established onscreen in the TNG pilot to be "one hundred and thirty-seven years old."

The premiere night ad for TNG established that "Seventy-eight years have passed since the days of the original starship Enterprise."

It was never taken to be literally a generation later, by anyone.

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[cooleddie74]

And Paramount promotional materials in 1987 said that the new series took place "78 years" after the most recent adventure of Kirk and Spock, which just happens by happy circumstance to place the first season in 2364 and the events in The Voyage Home in 2286, where Mike Okuda would later place the fourth film when he constructed his Paramount-approved chronology in the early '90s.

 

[Yistaan]

From the very first publicity and in the first draft of the Writer/Directors Guide, TNG was established to be "one hundred years after the original crew."

This also why Admiral McCoy was established onscreen in the TNG pilot to be "one hundred and thirty-seven years old."

Maybe they hadn't established how old Data was yet. He literally could have been over a hundred years old but why he'd still be a lieutenant commander in Starfleet... well

 

[Mudd]

Maybe they hadn't established how old Data was yet. He literally could have been over a hundred years old but why he'd still be a lieutenant commander in Starfleet... well

Huh?

Data's age isn't at issue with regard to when TNG was always set. But McCoy is 137 years old when NCC-1701-D is at Farpoint in the first episode.

 

[Yistaan]

Huh?

Data's age isn't at issue with regard to when TNG was always set. But McCoy is 137 years old when NCC-1701-D is at Farpoint in the first episode.

I mean Data could have been in the class of 2278 legitimately when TNG premiered.

 

[cooleddie74]

Although that brings up the issue of why an android so important to Federation science and Starfleet was never even referenced in the TOS Movie Era. You'd think an incredibly sophisticated artificial life form serving in a Starfleet uniform in the Kirk era would be a big deal.