Spoilers Star Trek: Lower Decks 2x03 - "We'll Always Have Tom Paris"

[Nerys Myk]

She said she said

 

[Turtletrekker]

I think I need to unfollow this thread for a day or two.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I'll follow the Sun.

 

[cooleddie74]

Honey Don't!

 

[The Old Mixer]

Oh! Trekker, if you leave me
I'll never make it alone
Believe me when I tell you
I'll never do you no harm
Believe me, Trekker

 

[DaveyNY]

HELP!
Ya know I need someone, to Live and Let Die while the Black Bird is singing in the dead of night.
Take these broken wings and learn to fly
All your life
You were only waiting for this moment to arise.

 

[The Old Mixer]

Ti ssim, ti ssim, nam, deliared si daerht siht.

 

[cooleddie74]

I'VE GOT BLISTERS ON ME TYPING FINGERS!!!!

 

[Nerys Myk]

We might be making these posts till the one after 909.

 

[The Old Mixer]

And curse Gene Roddenberry
He was such a horny get!

 

[gblews]

I took it to be a reference to exactly what you mention. (Plus, Boimler accidentally "blackfaces" as a Kazon... with disastrous results.)
They just didn't hit us over the head with it, as a direct "green face" ref would have done. I'm glad they can be subtle and don't take their audience for idiots. I hate it when a show spells everything out.

This is partly what I’v been talking about. Maybe the writers thought they were making a subtle correlation between the Orions and 21st century racial politics, but if they were, I don’t think it landed. The writing just wasn’t clever enough to be “subtle”. In this case I think they needed to be more in your face with the joke. They left the door open for us to debate, did they, or didn’t they? You say the joke was subtle, I say it was non-existent.

I still believe that their “subtlety,” if that’s what you think it was, I think they just passed on the obvious joke for fear of backlash undermined whatever comedic potential the Orion segment may have had.

My hope is that they drop attempts at “subtlety” and their fear of offending and just go for it.

BTW, I don’t think the Boimler thing had anything at all to do with the joke they should have gone for with the Orion’s.

 

[Commander Troi]

I'm so tired, my mind is on the blink. I wonder should I get up and fix myself a drink?

 

[Turtletrekker]

I always screw up when I try to post a meme, so here is a Facebook link to a meme posted by Dayton Ward. I think you will find it appropriate.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10226811893184452&id=1264609227

 

[Crewman6]

Are the actors proprietors of their own voices? I mean they always use the actor to voice his own character while a good impersonator could easily do the trick and you couldn't tell the difference.

I mean would it be a huge difference if the end credits said "Tom Paris voiced by John Doe or whatever"?

Are you in charge of the show's budget? If not, why on earth would you argue for an impersonator over the real actor when the real actors are generally agreeable and available?

 

[oldtrekkie]

The love you take is equal to the love you make.

 

[oldtrekkie]

Are you in charge of the show's budget? If not, why on earth would you argue for an impersonator over the real actor when the real actors are generally agreeable and available?

Impersonators often parody the voices and make them sound funnier than the original does.

 

[Crewman6]

Impersonators often parody the voices and make them sound funnier than the original does.

That's shitty, lowbrow humor that'd be out of place even in a silly show like LD.

 

[oldtrekkie]

That's shitty, lowbrow humor that'd be out of place even in a silly show like LD.

So you think Star Trek is highbrow?

 

[F. King Daniel]

So what's with in-universe merch being a thing in Lower Decks? Collectors plates of the Voyager crew? Who makes this stuff, and who would buy* it?

It reminds me of Shazam! and all the Justice League merch people wore in that movie. Who makes money from it? Some The Boys-style evil superhero corporation?

*or just get it for free because "no money"

 

[Spike730]

I wonder why Paris wore the FC uniform (like the Titan crew).