General Trek Questions and Observations

[Coops]

Nice article on Cracked about James Doohan, although getting the Tribble episode mixed up at the start displays a newbie level of effort...

https://www.cracked.com/article_30323_star-treks-best-captain-is-scotty/

 

[Tim Thomason]

Scotty can hack into a ship's security programs like no one.

I disagree. I heard, actually, that no one is better than Scotty.

 

[Oddish]

Arguably the silliest bit of Trek trivia ever...

If you start streaming "Spirit Folk" at exactly 11:49:35 on New Year’s Eve, Harry Kim will smooch the cow right at the stroke of midnight.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

Scotty reset the computer.

Yes to the default password which was 1234Rocks a nod to the fact consoles contain rocks and can explode at random

 

[ThankQ]

Arguably the silliest bit of Trek trivia ever...

If you start streaming "Spirit Folk" at exactly 11:49:35 on New Year’s Eve, Harry Kim will smooch the cow right at the stroke of midnight.

Well. That's something I know now.

Random bit of Trek trivia: If you start streaming "Code of Honor" at 11:49:35, ThankQ will leave the room at exactly 11:49:41.

 

[Oddish]

I expect streaming "Spirit Folk" would also cause the room to empty out, regardless of date or time.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

What happens if you stream Sub Rosa at 11:49:49?

 

[Oddish]

What happens if you stream Sub Rosa at 11:49:49?

Hopefully something that doesn't involve cows.

 

[oldtrekkie]

Hopefully something that doesn't involve cows.

Beverly making cow eyes at a ghost...

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

Beverly making cow eyes at a ghost...

Oof

 

[Oddish]

Beverly making cow eyes at a ghost...

Only it's not a ghost, it's an 800 year old anaphasic lifeform that's been inhabiting her ancestors (and giving them serious "action") since the Renaissance.

 

[oldtrekkie]

Only it's not a ghost, it's an 800 year old anaphasic lifeform that's been inhabiting her ancestors (and giving them serious "action") since the Renaissance.

I know that. The point is that they tried to write a ghost story but since it's "science" fiction they "had to" make it something else... something involving tons of technobabble. The candle thing doesn't make any sense for example. Why would lighting a candle provide the ghost with additional energy? Plus the candle wasn't lighted to being with yet the ghost could go to a funeral but yet somehow destroying the candle kills him instantly....

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

I know that. The point is that they tried to write a ghost story but since it's "science" fiction they "had to" make it something else... something involving tons of technobabble. The candle thing doesn't make any sense for example. Why would lighting a candle provide the ghost with additional energy? Plus the candle wasn't lighted to being with yet the ghost could go to a funeral but yet somehow destroying the candle kills him instantly....

Now it sounds like really bad fan fiction when you put it like that

scifi shows have a very hard time trying to make supernatural episodes or ghost stories without technobabble. Why can't a ghost story be a proper ghost story?

 

[oldtrekkie]

Now it sounds like really bad fan fiction when you put it like that

scifi shows have a very hard time trying to make supernatural episodes or ghost stories without technobabble. Why can't a ghost story be a proper ghost story?

Or why would they want to write a ghost story, to begin with? Why not leave it to other shows? Shows where everything doesn't have to be "natural"...

Imagine if they write a slew of episodes like that, vampires, zombies, devilish possessions... all "explained" by technobabble...

I mean, why stop there?

 

[Nerys Myk]

Now it sounds like really bad fan fiction when you put it like that

scifi shows have a very hard time trying to make supernatural episodes or ghost stories without technobabble. Why can't a ghost story be a proper ghost story?

Because ghosts don’t exist. So they need to sf the concept.

 

[Grendelsbayne]

Q snaps his fingers. Ghosts exist now. Job done.

 

[Oddish]

Now it sounds like really bad fan fiction when you put it like that

Sometimes canonical events in stories wind up that way. Three events that come to mind...
1. Sub Rosa
2. Threshold
3. The "Evil Green Tummy Monster" bit in "Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince".

 

[NCC-73515]

The candle ghost energy creature was more convincing to me than the witches and giant cat in TOS Catspaw XD

 

[oldtrekkie]

The candle ghost energy creature was more convincing to me than the witches and giant cat in TOS Catspaw XD

That doesn't say much.

 

[fireproof78]

Catspaw is more believable than Sub Rosa, as well as several Voyager plots.