How do you know he didn’t have something on Roddenberry?
In that case, he might have been a pretty good actor.
I heard him on the radio once. Not a David Niven level raconteur, but amusing enough
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In that case, he might have been a pretty good actor.
I heard him on the radio once. Not a David Niven level raconteur, but amusing enough
As obvious as the strings are today I wonder how many really noticed them at the time given the small size/poor resolution/frequent interference of TVs in the 60s. When you consider effects were tailored to the low fidelity of television their faults are really quite forgivable imo.
Well, to quote Spock, they were making entertainment with bearskins and stone knives...
It was definitely something different!
It was a daring choice. I'll give the producers that. They tried.
The effects, to me, are a classic “so bad it’s actually amazing art” situation for me. 
I agree. Zephram Cochrane said he never met the great visionary the guys from the Enterprise talked about, and his vision was retiring in Tahiti. I wondered if the writers meant that to be a reference to Roddenberry.
I liked Dr. Sevrin. He was the Chakotay of TOS, more so than Bones.
Ironically, I think he could have resisted the spores from This Side Of Paradise, which would have been perfect for him and Khan.
His conviction would want him to embrace it on his own terms—but it got him killed on the hostile world.
He was a mentally disturbed would-be mass murderer!!
The Chakotay of TOS!!! Really????
He was misguided of course...not a Dukat type schemer...it has been years since I’ve seen the episode...he had this idea of a simple life.
You know, his band might have been happy with Apollo...Khan would have been defanged on the planet from This Side—
If only they had a chance of a do-over...everyone would have been happy
You know, his band might have been happy with Apollo...Khan would have been defanged on the planet from This Side—
If only they had a chance of a do-over...everyone would have been happy
There was no way to hide the strings. TOS-R used paintbox or whatever HD equivalent to mask them out more effectively. Why they didn't use clear fishing wire instead of thick black wire, though...
He was a mentally disturbed would-be mass murderer!!
The Chakotay of TOS!!! Really????
Yeah, but let's see Chakotay high on something first...
Even better, let's see him in Adam's outfit!
Poor ol' Skip Homier, playing a Nazi leader clone figure (in a story that doesn't rub people the right way, said its leader John Gill...) and a year later plays an embryonic Jim Jones archetype before the 70s cult movement really took off, and a decade before the Jonestown massacre. The cult leader role is the more effective of the two he portrayed. Certainly the more original... and more layered... and more expensive since they couldn't raid the wardrobe for WW2 costumes for "Eden". The Way to Eden had promise and even hints at some character depth. Patterns of Force was just being cheap for cheap's sake and is as uninspired as anything gets. Even Hogan's Heroes was funnier.
Except that Patterns Of Force wasn't supposed to be funny - that was A Piece Of The Action (which was funny, IMO)
Oh, I know it wasn't supposed to be funny. It's sad when a sitcom revisiting the same events (and probably costumes and set props too, something as common as that gear would more likely be rented from a central source) is better; Trek is handling the themes so hamfistedly bad that it's beyond a joke (not unlike many "parallel earth development" outings
), and IMHO Hogan's Heroes wasn't exactly a go-to show for laughs either. Or, rather, it's not all dated well - nothing does, but HH was popular back in the day... But I'd rather try to laugh with any HH episode than at PoF for its by-the-numbers 50 minutes.And yet so many are always quick to say "The Way to Eden is the worst episode!" when it really isn't. That might make for an interesting TOS post, where people can compare two episodes - one deemed bad and one deemed forgettable or "just there" and ask which one is truly worse compared to conventional fandom.
APotA definitely was made for laughs in mind. It's not my favorite, but it's still more honed as a story - which also shared a similar theme and aired a mere 4 weeks earlier. TOS often reused themes, which weren't always successful...
He longed for a simple life. He felt that the the precisely manufactured environments were dangerous to the people inside them. He may have been completely wrong but his idea of returning to a more natural environment is certainly similar to the Chakotay's philosophy, or what he learned from his dad.He was a mentally disturbed would-be mass murderer!!
The Chakotay of TOS!!! Really????
If you put aside the psychotic mass murdering madness... But can we really put that aside? Hitler was a painter, you know. I hear they even made an exhibition of his paintings.
But can we really compare him to say... Rembrandt???
Who said put it aside? Simply recognizing the similarity in philosophy. Or perhaps the Baku would be a better example?
He was not a mass murderer, he was not aware the fruits were poisonous until it was too late. He did not plan to murder anyone.
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