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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x12 - "There Is A Tide…"

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You could well be correct. Although, there's been multiple examples of things that can't be replicate. So, I guess it could go either way. But theoretically if you can transport and replicate a person, you should be able to use similar technology to accurately recreate anything. Copy the pattern and recreate. But needs of the plot in some cases. Sentimentality for the food.

People will pay a fortune for a pen that was owned by a celebrity when an identical pen made at the same period will cost only a small fraction of the price. The difference is not measurable. In fact of not for a certificate of authenticity, it would be impossible to tell them apart.
 
Didn't he say Star Trek was dead to him? Yet he's still watching.

True. And yet Robert Meyer Burnett is still always breathlessly hitting the "REFRESH" button on the CBS All Access-app right at 11:59 P.M. on Wednesday night apparently just so he can be the very first person on earth to...(checks notes) hatewatch it? LOL.

It must suck getting cut off that hard and that quickly from the franchise you'd devoted nearly your entire conscious adult life to, and right when you were within touching-distance of it, no less (re: the TNG/ENT Blu-ray special features). If Burnett hadn't burned his industry-bridges, who knows, he might be one of the people actually making Star Trek right now.

And I think, deep down, he gets this.

But instead, he's now just a desperate, groveling podcaster, riding on the coattails of other folks' actual onscreen accomplishments and storytelling instead of getting to produce his own. So in a weird way, his vitriolic, antagonistic bitterness towards the franchise makes a rough kind of sense.
 
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Didn't he say Star Trek was dead to him? Yet he's still watching.
Sounds like most Trek fans at this point.

I assume people will try to act in their own self-interests at least. And her plan was just dumb. Given her knowledge of the Federation, did she really think they'd look the other way? I guess she did, but that's why it's a dumb plan!

I'd also say the Federation was pretty lame in the story as well. There's no way they should led the spore drive get away form them. While Discovery had transporter scramblers, you know in any other episode, they'd either find a technobabble solution OR find a way to sneak operatives aboard. They did nothing.

Most of the episode was nonsensical when you think about it.
Sure, why wouldn't she expect them to look the other way? She had what they wanted.
 
As for my rating of this episode: 8

It had a lot of good stuff in it (with a smattering of ridiculous here and there, but that's Star Trek).

I thought the negotiation scenes were interesting in that Osyra really did surprise me in that she came across that she was trying to honestly negotiate an alliance with the Federation.

I also thought Vance's responses were both good and in character; and yes in the end it's the Federation's unwillingness to compromise with respect to its underlying ideals that nix the deal; but hey, that was true to how the Federation has been depicted through most of Star Trek. In the end those that do compromise the Federation's ideals, end up paying a heavy price one way or the other.

I also thought Burnham was pretty good with her Bruce Willis "Die Hard" impersonation.;) The one thing that bothered me with that was, you would think if what she was carrying was programmable matter; It should have been able to turn into some sort of 32nd century dermal regenerator, or some other regenerative medical device; instead of just a phaser which you use to cauterize the injury. Then she could turn it into a phaser. :p

I also like the scene between her and Stamets when she ejected him into space. The emotion between the two characters was earned, heartfelt, and a realistic human response given the situation <--- That's something I never really saw much in the TNG/DS9/VOY 24th century Berman era of Trek. The reasoning behind both characters reactions was good; and for once we had a situation where there wasn't one obvious 'right answer'. They were both reacting true to their characters motivations, And that was refreshing for me with respect to Star Trek.

I also like that they didn't show us what was going on with Culber and the rest who are stranded on the Holodeck on the ship in the nebula - not even at the end of the episode. They get kudos for me from that.

I almost gave this episode a 9. What made it an 8 was the fact that I'm sorry, but I can't stand cute robots that show up to save the day in any of my sci-fi; and in this case it wasn't just one cute robot It was three. :brickwall::censored:

(And that's my reaction to a lot of Star Wars stuff too when they do that; and they do it a lot.:crazy:;))
 
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Once again, Robert Meyer Burnett trying desperately to build up his so-called "brand," in the absence of actual industry-work:

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https://twitter.com/BurnettRM/status/1344678612415332353

...Jesus Christ, this guy. "Worse" than, say...Galactica 1980? Or Man From Atlantis? Or Automan? Or even (God help us) Meego?

Why is he even watching? Loaded question, I know.
 
Well if you scan a bog standard for the replicator.. Then eat an expensive organic one.. There are subtle differences, where if you get 5 replicated one's they'll taste the same every time.
 
Well if you scan a bog standard for the replicator.. Then eat an expensive organic one.. There are subtle differences, where if you get 5 replicated one's they'll taste the same every time.
Only if the person designing the replicator is an idiot.

It's not hard to add a limited randomizer to such a system, and nobody really complains about blandness so much as various different replicator qualities.
 
This was Osyraa's first bit of legitimate character development but I feel like it was too late. Jake Weber as Future Negan would've been a more interesting season-long villain. I feel like many of this season's plot points will have to be continued next season. If they try to wrap everything up in the next episode, that will be underwhelming.
 
Anyone else really confused at the "You can't replicate the spore drive" bit?

Stamets is the drives literal creator, so the only way Starfleet shouldn't be able to replicate it is if Stamets refuses to actually write up blueprints for the damn things...
They just can't find another navigator

The Sphere data taking so long to manifest itself was frustrating too. Better late than never, I suppose.
I guess it waited until it was needed

I'm really beginning to like Osyraa. She is the good guy in all this.
If a mass murderer can get a hero's memorial where everyone misses her oh so much, then another murderer can be the good guy, I guess... XD

With regards to Tilly, I genuinely don't know whst they're trying to achieve with her by making her first officer at this stage where she's isn't ready for such a role by virtually any metric you wish to use.

Tilly was still cadet not so long ago, she's now an ensign, and while a lot of stuff has happened in two years or do nothing about her experience or demeanor makes me think 'lets make her second in command and bypass any number of lieutenants, lieutenant commanders etc'. I'm struggling to remember an occasion where Tilly was ever in command other than the Mirror Universe play-acting way back when.

It would be like promoting Wesley Crusher straight up to first officer and bypassing Data and Worf.

Crazy.
it's temporary, everyone else already has a task to perform, she was the only one who could easily switch to a new position

And them holding their 3 fingers up like some other 3 fingered cute thingy from another Star named sci-fi show. Not a total rip-off at all, nope, not at all :D
The TOS DOTs did it in Ephraim already

There is no straight line between make a missile and land on the moon. It is an organizational challenge that involves professionals in multiple disciplines. Don't oversimplify.
and we don't have professionals today, and multiple disciplines? XD
In essence, Apollo program was a complex of technological and organizational efforts, many of the step to which are either not entirely understood or no longer understandable in contemporary practices.
As in American engineers and scientists do not know how to replicated the technology that brought humans to the Moon in 1969.
We cannot replicate what was done in 1969. Full stop.
really funny how we actually do send crewed capsules to orbit, and sophisticated probes to mars every few years. must be magic. fullest stop.
 
Btw, how the hell do they know that the tardigrades have gone extinct? These animals can travel from one end of the galaxy (and for all we know the universe) to the other in no time and most likely to other universes as well, so how can you tell that there isn't even one left?
 
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