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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x12 - "There Is A Tide…"

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So, this episode we learn that for no explainable reason their technology has regressed to about Enterprise levels in a lot of places...

We also learn that the Discovery crew were idiots for not installing transporter jammers during their refit.
 
Was bummed to see Ryn go but it was necessary for Mitchell's character to finally see Osyraa's true colors and for the audience to finally realize she's dangerous. Was it just me though, or does her accent fluctuate between British and...not British? I couldn't put my finger on it but it just didn't seem consistent.

Stamets's anger at Burnham was a raw and moving and honestly a nice change from the not-quite earned displays of emotion from others earlier in the season.

I enjoyed Die Hard Michael Burnham and her "You're gonna need more Regulators" line, and look forward to the obvious Kirk homage of "I don't believe in those" in regards to no-win scenarios.
 
  • First things first: I get a commercial for some sort of automated Navage system. Thanks, but no thanks, CBS. I tried to use one of those (actually, a pretty crude netty pot) about ten years ago, but it just gave me a terrible headache and sent water everywhere. Never again. I hate this episode already. 65 / 100
  • Previously on Star Trek: Discovery (Bring back Majel! Or at least, Rebecca!): Guy from There is a Hope, who probably survived, then they cut to all the bad stuff that happened last episode, and Burnham saying that they're too late. Oh, okay then. I guess that's it. See you next week! 62 / 100
  • Episode begins proper with the scene that I already saw. Osyraa is missing her apple as she relaxes on the bridge under her rubber mask. I don't know what the hell Vance and Willa are talking about, but sure, they're like an Altairian Spider, I guess. 61 / 100
  • I'm glad that Lieutenant Timo doesn't go on a long rant about how the universe is a cold, heartless place, and they need to continue their current policy of vaporizing all dissent and how she has a detailed list of all starships and... 70 / 100
  • "Small bit of code" - The Sphere Data? Yeah, I imagine it's Funny Face or whatever. Bridge Crew is in The Ready Room (with Wil Wheaton, no doubt), the rest (~70 crew members?!) are in the brig somewhere. Of course, Lieutenant Nilsson and her resistance movement are taking over the turboshafts. They'll be awhile. 75 / 100
  • Nice of Osyraa and Episode 1 guy (Zareh!) to bring Ryn up to The Ready Room (Wil must be on break this week) to hang out with his wife and be apart of the action. You think he'd get his own cell, rather than a chance to take part in Tilly's arm of the Resistance. 77 / 100
  • Book's ship crashes into the Discovery's open shuttlebay. Good thing they always leave that open. Good thing the cat's okay. 62 / 100
  • Okay, Kenneth Mitchell is one of the bad guys. I was hoping he'd be Federation President. Could still be, I guess (ba dum tish). Mr. Greatest Scientist in Three Sectors (that's not much, guys) is about to give us narration. 63 / 100
  • "Regulators, Mount up!" - Zareh Dogg, probably. 100 / 100
  • Vance just now figures out that Osyraa has entered via Trojan horse. Have you been watching the episode, man? 42 / 100
  • Mr. Borg Guy doesn't like Detmer / Owo. Mr. Borg Guy is now my enemy. 30 / 100
  • Book is taken to The Ready Room as opposed to the Brig. That's probably way out of the way, but they need the main cast together, I guess. 20 / 100
  • Burnham needs to play more stealth games. You can't just leave the body out in the open like that! 0 / 100
  • So, are 70+ people coming over on one shuttle? Or more? 2 / 100
  • Burnham is calling her mother? The nun on Ni'Var who probably doesn't have easy access to subspace communications? Okay. Also, Michael, your dad was murdered onscreen. I don't think he's in a distant future. 1 / 100
  • "Where's your President?" "We haven't cast them yet." "Oh, bummer." -5 / 100
  • Didn't take them long to take over The Ready Room. They're Starfleet (except for Booker), that's what they do. 50 / 100
  • Yes! She wants recognition! I called it. 1000 / 100
  • Osyraa making alot of sense here. 1100 / 100
  • That's cold (ba dum tish). Burnham just needlessly killed Regulator 665. 800 / 100
  • Osyraa is bringing up economics of the Federation. Uh-oh. Good on Vance confirming what we already know about replicator technology. Although, I think he's being a bit too simplistic. Certainly they get fresh "base matter" constantly, to supplement their organic excrement. Otherwise, they'd starve fairly quickly. Recycling is a good thing. Oh, and they gave Osyraa her apple. 700 / 100
  • Ryn sounding like he's about to get killed. 600 / 100
  • Nice use of the Vulcan nerve pinch. Yeah, yeah, she shouldn't be able to use it, but she's used it before, so we can't take it back. 600 / 100
  • Vance doesn't play RealPolitik. 600 / 100
  • Osyraa beamed over to a ship that was in the midst of a rebellion? 50 / 100
  • And Ryn gets killed. Called that. 60 / 100
  • You'd think the tactical officer would be carrying a gun. But nice headlock 30 / 100
  • Aw, the DOT-23s are Zora. Ready to take back the ship.
  • No Saru. No Reno. No Nilsson. 10 / 100
  • Rating: Very Low 10 - Could've Been Better
 
I really hate those robot things. All they say to me is that they were included to make the franchise more like Star Wars. I would get rid of them.
 
Where was Nilsson?

Mitich must be working on something, to be replaced by maskless Lt. Ina (Blackwell) last episode. In-story, it seems that everyone outside of the bridge crew were shuttled over to Federation HQ as a sign of good faith, which should cover Nilsson and Reno and Gene and Pollard and the other 65 or so guys. Maybe she'll be there to get Stamets next episode and head off to the Verubin Nebula, if they have a way.
 
I thought the sphere data would play a role but I didn’t think it would be inside the Dot bots.

People have been saying the DOTs would be important, because of their prominence in the opening credits, but we have seen zero evidence until now. Similar to the time crystals being used in the opening credits of the first two seasons.
 
They don’t have apple trees in that silly garden ship?

That silly garden ship was lost for 100 years without rescue. We know Vance was a Captain at one point (making hard decisions), but I have a feeling he spent his entire life onboard starships and now the massive space station, and always ate from replicators, never even contemplating real food.
 
That silly garden ship was lost for 100 years without rescue. We know Vance was a Captain at one point (making hard decisions), but I have a feeling he spent his entire life onboard starships and now the massive space station, and always ate from replicators, never even contemplating real food.
When did they say it was lost for a 100 years?
 
When did they say it was lost for a 100 years?

My bad. Confusing plot points. But the Tikhov always seemed to be off doing its own thing (collecting seeds?) while acting like some sort of generational vessel carrying a small family.
 
My understanding was that the Tikhov became effectively stranded after The Burn because no one could reach it, so the Barzans who were the last people to take over supervisory duties were stuck there.
 
Oh, that was fun. And filled with far more diplomacy than I expected. That episode did quite a bit for the overall world-building as well as for the character of Osyraa
The negotiations were very good scenes and Osyraas pitch genuinely surprised me and in a good way for once. Great that we finally got an expanded view of the situation in the 32nd century too

Not that one. The one that’s at Federation HQ.
The bubble dome ship that looks like the BSG one

He needs to be like Kirk. Just respond to a red alert mid-exercise or physical, and not bother to put his shirt back on.
Disappointing lack of shirtlessness and double fist punches from the crew today

2 questions from this episode.
Are the helmet guys Breen ?
Is there really a Federation president ?
 
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