Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x11 - "Su'Kal"
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That's just it; we have no idea what her endgame is and that's frustrating. Are we going to find out? I hope so, but, I'm not a fan of finding this out later. This should be firmly-established up front.
The Eddington of DS9?
A 7.
Parts were interesting to be sure (and that's why a 7) but please going back to the:
- Malfunctioning Holodeck trope.
PLUS
- The enemy EASILY takes over a Federation starship in the blink of an eye...no resistance whatsoever trope.
The Discovery was on red alert but somehow NO ARMED SECTURITUY ANYWHERE ON THE SHIP?
Lets leave 90s Trek tropes in the dumpster. I hadn't seen a ship takeover like that since TNG's "Rascals" (and that episode was utter crap all around).
It's also getting a bit ridiculous that the Villains can show up as nearly instantaneously as the Discovery jumps (IE within 4 hours). I mean hell if ships can still travel that fast, WHY did the Federation fall apart so fast?
Also, you're telling me that 32nd century tech couldn't determine this Nebula as the source of the burn until now? (IE - 125 years later.) Star Fleet scientists must have dropped in IQ over the last 900 years.
Also, come on - we know know what 'event' caused the Burn -- It was the exact moment of Su' Kal's mother's death and his emotional reaction to it -- Western Union couldn't have made the telegraphed plot point faster.
Probably the latter. It's something an editor has to do when they didn't get enough coverage on the day of the shoot, can't do reshoots, etc. Discovery isn't the first Star Trek series to do this and it won't be the last.
I gave it a 7 for the same reasons. Started out interesting, but too much idiot plot at the end, when the Emerald Chain shows up.
My guess is that Burnham saves the day, and replaces Saru as CO of Discovery.
Linus will save the day by reversing the polarity of the badges of Osyrra's people, and beaming them all into space.
Osyraa plans to use the ship for leverage.
I don't believe it was his mother dying. She would have been dead by the time he would have caused the Burn. The ship crashed in 3064 and the Burn happened in 3069.
I don't believe it was his mother dying. She would have been dead by the time he would have caused the Burn. The ship crashed in 3064 and the Burn happened in 3069.
I want GRUDGE to save the day (just by being cute, cuddly and totally disarming).
If characters working together is your thing then Discovery isnt the show for you
Or he'll sneeze at the culprit. Remember that the last guy he sneezed at was crushed by an asteroid, mere hours later. It's sort of a bad luck charm.
Ah yes ... that really rubbed me the wrong way when she expressed her 'concerns' about Saru to Book. It's rather hurtful to do that to an alleged friend and fairly inappropriate given he is her commanding officer.
I want GRUDGE to save the day (just by being cute, cuddly and totally disarming).
That poor frikkin' cat! Exposed to ionizing radiation because Book took her to Dilithiumworld. Throw that bastard in the brig and revoke his privileges, and fine his neglectful ass! Worst. Cat custodian. Ever!
If you just think of it as the burn being caused by the descendants of Badgey it makes complete sense
I agree I really thought someone was getting shot. Had vibes of the baseball bat guy from Walking Dead
Best part of the episode. He really made it look like someone playing a human for the first time
Im starting to think you are actually just a troll. If Riker walked out of the shower and it was all a dream you would be telling everyone how inspired it was and how amazing a piece of writing
Thats actually a brilliant idea. I read it in Scotty voice for some reason or maybe Torres but its a pure Trek chief engineer move either way
And she was utterly crap every time she was ever near command so who is she to talk.
Also since when are you acting captain every time the captain leaves the ship
It's not?
There is a handy button if that is indeed what you think about me.
Just what we needed from discovery: a holodeck malfunction episode!
Osyira can not only track discovery, but also reach her after a very short time, somehow...And of course now she’s super interested in capturing her while a few episodes ago she couldn’t care less.
Now the spore drive can teleport other ships to...too bad they didn’t know it in season 1, sounds like a useful thing to do in a war!
I’m not sure how they managed to make boring an episode that has thr ship boarded, but I almost fell asleep...Might be the a-plot being so obvious, messy and uninspired.
6 because I feel generous.
Osyira can not only track discovery, but also reach her after a very short time, somehow...And of course now she’s super interested in capturing her while a few episodes ago she couldn’t care less.
Now the spore drive can teleport other ships to...too bad they didn’t know it in season 1, sounds like a useful thing to do in a war!
I’m not sure how they managed to make boring an episode that has thr ship boarded, but I almost fell asleep...Might be the a-plot being so obvious, messy and uninspired.
6 because I feel generous.
They insulted her. As far as villain motivations go it was a bit tropey but workable.
Yeah, instead of wasting time insulting her, they should have black-alerted out of there a great distance. She only stayed because Discovery stayed otherwise she would probably have left. Disco could always come back later to pick up its crewmembers. When you have a spored drive, distance means nothing.
ETA: I think my biggest frustration stems from the idea that the technology takes such a huge point of prominence in a story that is largely about characters working together. The technology is a backdrop. Is it really straining this story so much that it is the talking point rather than what the characters are doing?
Since its a scifi show, both the characters working together AND technology matter equally and should fit TOGETHER.
There's no point in making a show set in the far future if the story doesn't MAKE USE of that setting in a convincing manner.
The talent of Doug Jones simply towers over that of everyone else. Wow!
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