"And then Kirk and Spock watched as truck ran over Miss Keeler".Unless Michael saw a mention of the Guardian when she read her brother's bio.
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x10 - "Terra Firma, Part 2"
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Yes, but now she can research it later. It's not like it meant much to Kirk and CO. either at the time.The Guardian reveal would have meant nothing to Michael or Georgiou. The weird thing they didn't understand turned out to be another weird thing they don't understand in disguise
well, we’ve learnt how he used to think thanks to his strict upbringing and how he’s realized that there is more to the world than “the way”, that one can form “human” connections and that following unmotivated religious dogma maybe is not that important.
What have we learnt about Michael? That she’s impulsive, rebellious, overly emotional and always right?
That she cares a lot more deeply than she was willing to admit. I don't see the always right part, but I'm sure I'm wrong on that
Thanks for detailing the parts about the Mando. Now I don't have to watch it.
ETA: Ok, a little less snarky, I guess. I appreciate your write up about Din. I just don't care. As a character he is a pure cipher to me. He doesn't feel like a person but a D&D character thrust on to a quest.
With Michael what I see is a person coming to grips with those emotions. You say overly emotional, and I guess that's fair, but what lies beneath is more interesting. Someone who has been hurt, reacts to the possibility of being hurt again, and feels more deeply than she has been taught that she should. While I would not call the Vulcans a cult I would say that she had to discover, as you describe with Din, that following one way isn't always right.
Ultimately it will come down to this-I don't give a crap about Din. I care about Michael. I'll own that bias until the day I die, but one is not greater than the other.
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Uhm ok.That she cares a lot more deeply than she was willing to admit. I don't see the always right part, but I'm sure I'm wrong on that
so you’re criticizing something you haven’t even seen?!
I just edited my post so hopefully it will make more sense. I was way snarkier than I meant to be.
And, yes, I have seen Mando. The parts that I care about do not include Din or Grogu.
Thanks, more understandable now.
Personally, I find really great how nuanced how that show can be...After the first season, which pretty much seemed a tight story with some filler episodes now and the and an inconsequential “Easter egg” ending reveal I feared they wouldn’t be able to keep it up, yet the second season, while being simpler story wise, managed to expand much more the character, humanizing him a lot, and turned out extremely enjoyable for me.
Personally, I find really great how nuanced how that show can be...After the first season, which pretty much seemed a tight story with some filler episodes now and the and an inconsequential “Easter egg” ending reveal I feared they wouldn’t be able to keep it up, yet the second season, while being simpler story wise, managed to expand much more the character, humanizing him a lot, and turned out extremely enjoyable for me.
The show is enjoyable for me too...just not from a character point of view.
The Guardian reveal would have meant nothing to Michael or Georgiou. The weird thing they didn't understand turned out to be another weird thing they don't understand in disguise
It's like when Harrison reveals he's been Khan all along. Sure, the audience knows. But it means nothing to Kirk and Spock at that point. So not really a reveal at all.
Yeah, even if Spock thought: "Wait...there was an Earth tyrant from the Eugenics Wars with that name and his age would match up...could he be..." he didn't say that onscreen so the reveal was meant simply for the audience.
Well this isn't the outcome we thought we'd get...... I guess time travel isn't an exact science even for a godlike machine.
Because that's Mirror Georgiou in my mind I read: "Use a Child As a Safety Seat."
Where Georgiou May Have Ended Up
A: 1990's Eugenics Wars
Not likely. It would be weird to have an alternate past in Star Trek, which is about the future.
B: The Present
As above. Also there is potential for contradiction of Past Tense. (And bringing up the Sanctuary Districts would be confusing to casual viwers who wouldn't have seen most of Deep Space Nine.)
C: Late 2060's Post First Contact
There is a lot of potential here.
D: Earth-Romulan War
Ditto
C: 2160's Early Days of the Federation
And here
E: Return to the period Discovery had left.
At the same time as Strange New Worlds. This is most likely.
F: The Lost Era – Sometime after the signing of the Khitomer Accords, but well before the Enterprise D is launched.
There is a lot of potential here. (Like the Tomed Incident, for instance.)
G: Early 2380s.
At the same time as Lower Decks.
H: Early 25th Century
At the same time as Picard or shortly afterwards.
I: Later in the 25th Century, the 26th Century or the early 27th Century
Also unexplored, so far.
A: 1990's Eugenics Wars
Not likely. It would be weird to have an alternate past in Star Trek, which is about the future.
B: The Present
As above. Also there is potential for contradiction of Past Tense. (And bringing up the Sanctuary Districts would be confusing to casual viwers who wouldn't have seen most of Deep Space Nine.)
C: Late 2060's Post First Contact
There is a lot of potential here.
D: Earth-Romulan War
Ditto
C: 2160's Early Days of the Federation
And here
E: Return to the period Discovery had left.
At the same time as Strange New Worlds. This is most likely.
F: The Lost Era – Sometime after the signing of the Khitomer Accords, but well before the Enterprise D is launched.
There is a lot of potential here. (Like the Tomed Incident, for instance.)
G: Early 2380s.
At the same time as Lower Decks.
H: Early 25th Century
At the same time as Picard or shortly afterwards.
I: Later in the 25th Century, the 26th Century or the early 27th Century
Also unexplored, so far.
Unless Michael saw a mention of the Guardian when she read her brother's bio.
Do we know she actually read his bio? We know she watched Picards...body cam?
Only if she's live action but everyone else is animated.
Not a TAS fan?
I guess it will be expanded upon in the new series.
For some reason, I immediately thought of when celebrities visit Sesame Street.
Never seen it, and I guess I'm a relic of when it was considered non-canon, or even just apocryphal. I've watched every Star Trek episode ever, but never watched TAS.
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