Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x03 - "People of Earth"
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All those people who yelled at me calling that new character a she when they all did in this episode. I expect an apology.
Maybe you should wait to see what happens with the character prior to being so smug.
At the time we didn't know which pronouns the character would use in the show, and for all we know it could be revealed that they do use they/them, and Stamets and Tilly were accidentally misgendering. This is not an excuse for you to do so as well.All those people who yelled at me calling that new character a she when they all did in this episode. I expect an apology.
Simultaneous kudos for getting the stardate very nearly right and a nitpick for possibly getting it a hair wrong.
The log establishes stardate 865211.3. Using the TNG-onward system of 2364 = 41000-41999, 2365 = 42000 = 42999, etc., stardate 865211.3 would land in 3188, the year that was established in the premiere. (If you want a simple verification of that, year = stardate / 1000 + 2323; 865.2113 + 2323 = early 3188.)
...with the minor caveat that, since there was a one-year time-gap, this should be 3189, not 3188.
Not too worried about the minor difference. In-universe could just be a minor drift in stardates vs. Earth years. It could be the log was recorded much earlier than it seemed. (It's implied she was coincidentally recording it as they got the hail, but it could be it was recorded much earlier and the playback and cut-off was dramatic license.) Or it could be that the "3188" in the premiere was a slip-up and the rest of the season is intended to be in 3188 and that episode was 3187.
Overall, I'd say more than anything kudos for keeping it so close to the existing system.
The log establishes stardate 865211.3. Using the TNG-onward system of 2364 = 41000-41999, 2365 = 42000 = 42999, etc., stardate 865211.3 would land in 3188, the year that was established in the premiere. (If you want a simple verification of that, year = stardate / 1000 + 2323; 865.2113 + 2323 = early 3188.)
...with the minor caveat that, since there was a one-year time-gap, this should be 3189, not 3188.
Not too worried about the minor difference. In-universe could just be a minor drift in stardates vs. Earth years. It could be the log was recorded much earlier than it seemed. (It's implied she was coincidentally recording it as they got the hail, but it could be it was recorded much earlier and the playback and cut-off was dramatic license.) Or it could be that the "3188" in the premiere was a slip-up and the rest of the season is intended to be in 3188 and that episode was 3187.
Overall, I'd say more than anything kudos for keeping it so close to the existing system.
That was my take.
I was initially taking it as showing her seem to get interrupted in recording it by the signal, but going back she's clearly just hanging with Book, so I'm just going to treat that as the explanation and assume they got it dead-on barring future evidence to the contrary.
I had a similar reaction -- the raider plot was a bit pat and resolved pretty quickly. But it's somewhat abbreviated to make room for all the other stuff in the episode, and I liked that stuff.
The ep was very efficient, I thought, at moving pieces onto the chess board, such as introducing the human symbiont and establishing more about the state of the Federation. In the end, I liked that they made room for an episodic storyline at all, and I really liked that they made time for so much small-scale character work. This was some of the best material SMG has had to work with, I thought. I hope this portrayal sticks.
That Book keeps going on about the "queen" makes me think there's something to the fan theory that Grudge is not what she seems.
Don’t be ignorant.All those people who yelled at me calling that new character a she when they all did in this episode. I expect an apology.
They said in pre-release interviews that it would take a bit for them to warm up and reveal their non-binary status to the discovery crew.
I wonder if the enby status is going to be something which is "innate" to Adira, or something that the joining caused? Even in Trill, the unprepared joining can cause some sort of dysphoria (though the gender elements of it were never really explored).
Going the latter route makes sense in-universe, but had the drawback of being potentially offensive to enbys by medicalizing/pathologizing the status.
Also makes me wonder how Grey is going to be involved next week. Is the symbiont supposed to be put into him?
Going the latter route makes sense in-universe, but had the drawback of being potentially offensive to enbys by medicalizing/pathologizing the status.
Also makes me wonder how Grey is going to be involved next week. Is the symbiont supposed to be put into him?
We saw them holding hands and smiling at each other in a trailer, so they certainly have a connection, and it would make sense to transfer the symbiont to a long-term host.
Well, this week's Discovery was quite a step down from the first two episodes for me.
Devoting nearly half of the episode run-time to the characters' emotional reunion might have been more impactful if they had been separated for more than two episodes. From Discovery's perspective they haven't seen Michael since... what... yesterday?
It's a bit depressing that in 800 years Earth has degenerated from the paradisal seat of the Federation into an out of the way fringe world so insular that the inhabitants are seemingly incapable of communication and travel within their own solar system.
The excuse given for Starfleet's departure from Earth was patently absurd, but if the place is crawling with Earth-firsters I can't say I blame Starfleet for just packing up and leaving.
That said, I did appreciate the attempt at a Star Treky story with the Titans (Titanians?), thin though it was.
I am intrigued by Adira Tal. One wonders what circumstances prompted Tal to end up with a Human child as host and how they've managed to survive this long, even managing to infiltrate the EDF.
The character seems entertaining enough- Wesley Crusher meets Ezri Dax.
It makes me nervous that they're going with the mystery box approach to serialized storytelling again this year. That has not proven to be Discovery's strength.
Devoting nearly half of the episode run-time to the characters' emotional reunion might have been more impactful if they had been separated for more than two episodes. From Discovery's perspective they haven't seen Michael since... what... yesterday?
It's a bit depressing that in 800 years Earth has degenerated from the paradisal seat of the Federation into an out of the way fringe world so insular that the inhabitants are seemingly incapable of communication and travel within their own solar system.
The excuse given for Starfleet's departure from Earth was patently absurd, but if the place is crawling with Earth-firsters I can't say I blame Starfleet for just packing up and leaving.
That said, I did appreciate the attempt at a Star Treky story with the Titans (Titanians?), thin though it was.
I am intrigued by Adira Tal. One wonders what circumstances prompted Tal to end up with a Human child as host and how they've managed to survive this long, even managing to infiltrate the EDF.
The character seems entertaining enough- Wesley Crusher meets Ezri Dax.
It makes me nervous that they're going with the mystery box approach to serialized storytelling again this year. That has not proven to be Discovery's strength.
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Gave it an 8. So Earth has seceded from the Federation and become isolationist? That's kind of sad. Though with the tech they possess it's hard to believe they didn't know what was going on in their backyard (Titan). Still, it's nice they didn't turn out to be EVIL or something like that, otherwise they could have easily arrested the crew and confiscated Discovery and the dilithium. I wonder what happened to the other main species (Vulcans, Klingons, Romulans, etc.)? Any chance the new girl is hosting the Dax symbiont? We'll see!
Cake is eternal, be it chocolate or yellow... Just ask Worf.
And so is a Dax! But...that's gotta be one senile old Trill having those memories and Host minds coagulating into psychic goo.
And so is a Dax! But...that's gotta be one senile old Trill having those memories and Host minds coagulating into psychic goo.
Please no Dax. That would feel emotionally manipulative.
I like that Georgiou is just going to be running around in an Admiral uniform. If Saru can be Captain, she might as well promote herself, I guess.
Basically "The Cloud Minders" with less punching.
Can we maybe postpone fighting about this until it actually comes up in an episode?
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