For the spinoffs, I’d go with “Emissary”.
“Context is for Kings” would’ve been a far stronger pilot. “The Vulcan Hello” should be hauled away as garbage.
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For the spinoffs, I’d go with “Emissary”.
“Context is for Kings” would’ve been a far stronger pilot. “The Vulcan Hello” should be hauled away as garbage.
I meant "The Vulcan Hello(DSC)" is superior to most of the rest of DSC Season 1's episodes but come to think of it there were so many bad Season 1 TNGs that it could also partially apply to "Farpoint."
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Sorry, but no. Most of the pilots are okay, but "Encounter at Farpoint" is hard to get through in a lot of spots. I wasn't a fan in 1987, so I don't share the "Oh my God! It brings back all the memories!" feeling a lot of you seem to have.
Sorry, but no. Most of the pilots are okay, but "Encounter at Farpoint" is hard to get through in a lot of spots. I wasn't a fan in 1987, so I don't share the "Oh my God! It brings back all the memories!" feeling a lot of you seem to have.
"Broken Bow, Parts I and II(ENT)" are arguably the best since the two TOS pilots.
I think "Remembrance" is the best pilot. "The Cage" comes up a close second.
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I’d say the only pilot that beats Second Contact is The Cage
Most of the pilots just don't land for me. I think the Cage is probably the strongest for me, followed by Second Contact. Most pilots didn't hook me in to the shows from the word go.
Hard to really gauge the impact of the various pilots if you weren’t there at the beginning of the various shows. I was hooked on Trek before I ever saw “Where No Man...” or “The Cage”.
I mean, that's fair. I watched Broken Bow and Caretaker which did nothing for me so there's that.
The Cage always fascinated me, even after watching Balance of Terror, so I already had an "in" as it were. But, 90s Trek pilots were the first time I watched it and just shrugged. If it was on, great. But nothing inspired me to go back. If it were not for books I probably wouldn't have glanced at TNG or VOY or DS9 again.
"Broken Bow" was atmospheric and creepy in ways no Trek pilot had been since "The Cage" or at least the Wormhole Prophet scenes of "Emissary." It may not have been everyone's favorite launch to a Trek series but it was more cinematic than any that came before.
I mean, it was well done in the atmosphere but there was nothing that made me go, "I want to come back."
I remember thinking it made a fine one-off TV movie of the pre-TOS era.
The following season did not live up to it
I decided to agree to disagree with you about ENT a long time ago... but I have to ask: where do you see the "creepy"?
I think the Suliban were creepy in "Broken Bow", especially the scene where they abducted Klang from the NX-01. The creepiness did not hold up in any of their other appearances.
The Suliban scenes and the lighting and/or production designs of the NX-01 and the Suliban Helix.
Okay, thanks, I can see that with the Suliban stuff.
That's probably the closest they got.
The budget for shapeshifting effects and other production design dropped after the pilot so they could do less with the Suliban as a physical species with morphing abilities. Even the time dilation effects inside the chamber where Future Guy communicated with the Suliban and later Archer were cut out I'm assuming to save money.
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