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Romulan War

Admiral Jean-Luc Picard

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Would you be down for a limited run series about the war between Earth and the Romulans? Enterprise, Archer, and crew can be name dropped. Imagine that during the war, we learn the Enterprise has mostly been making diplomatic and defensive missions. The show would revolve around an Earth warp 6 capable warship, armed to the teeth, and featuring a Suliban cloak. We see the war from this new crew's perspective operating in the same time frame as Enterprise. We see what went down, how the Romulans were defeated, the beginning of the Federation, and why Starfleet doesn't use cloaks.

Wha'cha think?
 
As long as it's better than the Star Trek: The Beginning script and the ENT relaunch novels, I'm in.

It's the only "big thing" in Trek history that hasn't been fleshed out on screen, despite 5 decades of references.
 
Why not? DS9's Dominion War spanning the show's final 2 seasons, Enterprise's third season with the Xindi, and DIS's first season with the Klingon war. Why not round 4?
 
Would you be down for a limited run series about the war between Earth and the Romulans? Enterprise, Archer, and crew can be name dropped. Imagine that during the war, we learn the Enterprise has mostly been making diplomatic and defensive missions. The show would revolve around an Earth warp 6 capable warship, armed to the teeth, and featuring a Suliban cloak. We see the war from this new crew's perspective operating in the same time frame as Enterprise. We see what went down, how the Romulans were defeated, the beginning of the Federation, and why Starfleet doesn't use cloaks.

Wha'cha think?

I'm down. :techman: :rommie:
 
I am just listening to episode "The Prequel That Never Was" on the Inglorious Treksperts podcast. Paramount commissioned a script based on the Romulan war as a possible movie after Nemesis. A script was written by Erik Jendresen, shortly after the script was complete the regime change happened at CBS that resulted in the Trek hiatus.
 
I am just listening to episode "The Prequel That Never Was" on the Inglorious Treksperts podcast. Paramount commissioned a script based on the Romulan war as a possible movie after Nemesis. A script was written by Erik Jendresen, shortly after the script was complete the regime change happened at CBS that resulted in the Trek hiatus.
That's Star Trek The Beginning that was discussed earlier in the thread. The script leaked online late 2007. Truly awful.
 
How many of the series include a war during the course of their runs? A prime reason not to do a Romulan war is that doing a war on Star Trek has been done.

Seriously, how many different ways are there to have the special effects teams draw colored lines on the screen? Space battles (for me) have reached to point of bordom.

Now if you could figure a way to depict a Romulan war that was SIGNIFICANTLY different, maybe more a psychological drama instead of yet another action/adventure repeat.

Claustrophobic starships, officers who were civilians only a few months before, hastily trained crews operating cutting edge equipment they barely understand, being terrified of a technological superior enemy that no man has the slightest idea of what they look like. Maybe alien allies with agendas that don't place a priority upon helping the Humans win the war.

Or we could just fire some more photon torpedoes.
 
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I don’t really need to see a Star Trek show about a war.
This is why I always think the ENT should've been set in 2161, directly after the Romulan War and formation of the Federation, dealing with the first fully integrated Starfleet crew, so the diverse group of aliens are brought together in the confines of a starship and have to learn how to live/work together whilst also dealing with the aftermath of the war, rebuilding, as well as trying to spin good PR by taking on the dogma of boldly going.

DS9 went to war already, but ended right as the hard work was really about to begin.
 
This is why I always think the ENT should've been set in 2161, directly after the Romulan War
Or, have the last episode of season three be the start of the war, perhaps heading into the first major battle as the screen fades to black, roll credits. First episode of season five is nearly a decade later and the war recently ended.

and formation of the Federation
Never understood why anyone would want to see this, sounds boring.
Personally I think the federation should be rarely seen, and only occasional referred to.

dealing with the first fully integrated Starfleet crew
We don't see fully intergrated ships even in the 24th century. The Enterprise D is majority Human, with several non-humans scattered in.

Human CO, Human XO, Human CMO, Human CEO, Human built android 2nd officer, half-Human councilor, alien security officer raised on Earth/Earth colony. This on the flagship of the federation.

On DS9 we have a starship with a entirely Vulcan crew.
But the most recent ones have dealt with it. And, what would make this war different?
Making any further Trek wars different would be a requirement.

Otherwise just change the names in DS9's scripts and save some money on writers.
 
Never understood why anyone would want to see this, sounds boring.
Take all the tensions and conflicts between species we saw in ENT and shoehorn them into a single ship, these people may have been allies in the war and come together for whatever reasons, but that doesn't mean they'll all get along, would be a great way to introduce character conflict, showing the rocky road that was taken getting to where we know they end up--but that's just my take on it.

We don't see fully intergrated ships even in the 24th century. The Enterprise D is majority Human, with several non-humans scattered in.

Human CO, Human XO, Human CMO, Human CEO, Human built android 2nd officer, half-Human councilor, alien security officer raised on Earth/Earth colony. This on the flagship of the federation.
That's something every series has gotten wrong. Humans are by far the dullest species and would only make up a small fraction of Starfleet (there are after all 150+ other species to choose from), but this could be chalked up to systemic racism within Starfleet or the fact that humanity is little more than a blight on the galaxy never learning from its wrongs and spreading like a plague across the galaxy.
 
I mean, all the aliens we've seen just have aspects of humanity in some way, shape, matter or form. Man, I do not get the anti-human bias. Like, I like aliens in Trek but IDIC doesn't just apply to aliens, you know? O_o
 
In a sci-fi show with countless possibilities for how characters appear and act, what they believe, how their culture and history have molded them into something unique, to give them unique viewpoints in order to look upon, evaluate and address the human condition, all we ever get are more humans, born and raised on Earth, often with a dead parent, all with a generic "human" culture (sometimes with a few clearly token POC thrown in), predominantly speaking in American/human accents. For me all that is just dull.

In DS9, Kira was a Bajoran, she was in the Militia, a former terrorist now having to wear a veil of civility to deal with the Federation, the principles and protocols of which she didn't agree with. Quark was a profit-driven Ferengi, out looking to serve his own self interests. Odo was the fish out of water, a true outsider and loner, who had to turn his back on his peoples thirst for domination and stand what he believed was right. Dax had centuries of life and experience behind her, she was always on the look out for a new adventure and embraced all that life had to give knowing that there were no guarantees. Garak was 5000 shades of gray, you never knew just where he was coming from, what his agenda was or whose side he was on. Kai Winn was an egotistical, self-serving and power-hungry woman easily one of the franchises most complex antagonists. Just a sample of the wonderful assortment of non-human characters that just brought so much depth, so many new possibilities, so many unique and different ways of looking at things, showing that a series can survive when humans are in the minority.
 
...I guess the question goes, why couldn't Kira, Quark and Garak have been humans?

It's a Trek tradition to outsource traits to faces in heavy makeup, and a classic at that. Since Trek has been running for so long, though, it is at liberty to break its own kabuki rules and feature Klingon poets or Betazoid psychopath killers. Is there a continuing need to present humans as the balancing force of blandness, the canvas on which the alien colors can shine?

DSC does characters using human material, but it doesn't have all that much of the material yet for us to tell whether it might become a good thing. A putative show on the Romulan War would probably necessarily also be human-heavy, unless we got more viewpoints than the Good Guys' one (and the obligatory glimpses to the Evil Scheming Room of the Bad Guys). Perhaps we should avoid the risk and let Trek keep on being Trek, concentrating on those makeup faces that represent human failings and fortes...

Timo Saloniemi
 
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