When did he do that? I think in the Silver and Bronze Age (The Jerk era
) they weren't all that exclusive.
Any point in secret identities?
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) they weren't all that exclusive.
Probably I exaggerated a little bit, still it seemed to me a serious thing whatever it was between them. So serious that she needed to break up with himWhen did he do that? I think in the Silver and Bronze Age (The Jerk era
Even Luthor was upset when he heard the news.
So, I'm not sure how to define their relationship, but surely it was past the point of "flirting"
And now people walk around with their own personal phones on speaker subjecting the entire world to "personal" conversations.
Except in the early decades of telephones' existence, when there was probably an operator listening in.
Oh, the Superman-Popeye cross-over no one asked for.
I can understand the impulse to pair them. They're both comics characters adapted to animation by the Fleischer Studios, and they're both characterized by superhuman strength. (Although one gains strength from green stuff and the other has it taken away by green stuff.)
Off and on.Probably I exaggerated a little bit, still it seemed to me a serious thing whatever it was between them. So serious that she needed to break up with him
Even Luthor was upset when he heard the news.
So, I'm not sure how to define their relationship, but surely it was past the point of "flirting"
Well, obviously: just an infinite subset of a larger infinite number of them.
If there were not secret identities for superheroes then the heroes would either get bullied by the government or shown as being very subservient to the government (or really renegades) and also without much of a different personal life, none of which are good depictions to have, let alone for every hero.
Maybe every 100 issues instead of every 6.
It did for some 6 months, it eventually didn't because his identity was discovered and him not doing so from the general public wouldn't have made them more safe.
Maybe every 100 issues instead of every 6.
It did for some 6 months, it eventually didn't because his identity was discovered and him not doing so from the general public wouldn't have made them more safe.
A reasonable middle ground.
Hasn't Jimmy Olsen sometimes been shown as not such a good person, as trying to exploit his connection/closeness to Superman even without being so close as to know his identity? Smallville Pete Ross did knowing his secret. Clark could fear that with people who are friends and decent but not above temptations and Clark could view that as a strong temptation.
And even morally good characters can make errors in judgment, like Lois revealing his identity to her father, thinking he'll be decent to him and instead him hunting him.
The Modern Age (post-Crisis) Superman comics, I believe, had Clark not telling of his powers until she agreed to marry him because he wanted to know she loved Clark rather than the powers, maybe that's too much insecurity but I think it's a pretty valid decision and depiction.
That's pretty shitty, too, though, if you think about it: For one, the Clark he was pretending to be was a cover, so she couldn't know the real him, but also, sure, being in a relationship with a superhero could have serious perks, but it could also prove to be a real pain in the ass, with him flying off to go save someone or stop a crime at inconvenient times, or with supervillains trying to kill her and their family. Would it really be fair to have her decide to love him or marry him without knowing all of that relatively upfront? (I mean, I get not telling everyone he dates, but it should probably be part of the "going exclusive" phase of his dating.)
And from a narrative point of view, all the secret identity stuff wasn't more sustainable. In the Pre-Crisis stories he constantly humiliated Lois and made her doubt her sanity while she tried to figure out if Superman and Clark were the same person. Readers were no longer just pre-teens who thought the girls have cooties. All the concept was now simply offensive.
The multiversal council of Luthors!
In that version normal journalist Clark was his real self, even though Superman was also his real self (although a little bit more of an act), not just a cover.
Well hopefully most people wouldn't mind some inconveniences, less time together, if it the reason was saving lives but yes given those dangers to her and her family she should know before she married him and he did tell her after they were engaged but before they married, that timing is questionable but any would be, that's probably the best way to be fair to both of them.
I haven't read a lot of those so I don't know the circumstances or tone but if it was because she was ruthlessly trying to figure it out in order to expose him people do have a right, even from journalists, to a personal life, even secrets, especially if the secret is just that they go around helping people pseudonymously.
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Yeah -- as Clark put it in Lois & Clark (which was very much based on the post-Crisis Byrne stuff), "Superman is what I can do. Clark is who I am."
