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The weirdest and worst bit of Star Trek lore?

F. King Daniel

F. King Daniel

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It doesn't have to be canon, novels and even long held fanfic lore is eligable.

Lore Soong is not.

I'm gonna go with Vulcan penis lore, 3 testicles, 2 heads and feelers. 70's fanfic was a very strange place.

The ultimate evolution of humanity being salamamders in "Threshold" is probably the best worst bit of canon Trek lore, and weirdest for me is the centre of the galaxy containing a portal to an alternate universe of magic in "Magicks of Megas Tu". Spock drawing a pentagram on the floor of the rec room then moving chess pieces with his mind is amazing.
 
And you really think someone's going to top that? :whistle:

No puns intended... first time for everything...:guffaw:

Then again, I'm curious as to what could possible be worse... :devil:

(Wow, but they were rather imaginative back then, weren't they?)

Given the state of most 1970s television shows and how they were envelope-=pushing, in retrospect, the fanfic/slashfic seems on par... if today's television has been more... shall we say, "blunt"... what deliciously naughty must its fanfic/slashfic now be? Or might it be the other way around and be anything but salacious? :o
 
  • Klingons have two dicks according to DIS season 1 finale "will you take my hand".

  • The entire MULTIVERSE grows on a giant space mushroom, on (?) which roots (??) you somehow can travel instantaneous (?!?) according to DIS. If it does, the entire multiverse gets destroyed also, by the way (!!!).

  • The Romulans attacked Mars - because there were a lot of robots - via taking over said robots - out of fear for those robots - destroying a Federation rescue fleet that was specifically built to... wait for it... save 900 million Romulans!

  • Starfleet built a time-travel-suit - more powerful than even the USS Discovery, that can disable the entire planet of Kaminar - TWICE! But never used either the time-travel technology, not the advanced weapons/shield, nor it's warp-capabilities on any suit ever since.

  • Somebody beamed from earth to Kronos - with a device not bigger than a coffee-machine. Nobody ever used that device afterwards ever again, even though our heroes reverse-engineered it.

  • Khan's blood can revive the dead. Not just cure - completely bring back back from the dead after rotting for hours (humans) to days (Tribbles) - which they knew about because McCoy randomly decided to infuse their prisoner's blood probe into a Tribble-corpse (?).

  • .lJean Luc Picard did, but his mind was transferred into a robot - which is apparently super easy - and now everybody treats the robot as if he were the original Picard, but nobody else ever thinks about making backups of themselves, too

  • There are aliens in the Delta-quadrant that look exactly like humans. Yet everybody acts like they have never seen humans before, ever.

  • Two dudes - one of matter, one of antimatter, and one good and the other evil, are having a fistfight that threatens to blow up two whole universes

  • TNG: "Sub Rosa".


All of these are live-action, canon examples, by the way
 
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Rahul said:
  • Khan's blood can revive the dead. Not just cure - completely bring back back from the dead after rotting for hours (humans) to days (Tribbles) - which they knew about because McCoy randomly decided to infuse their prisoner's blood probe into a Tribble-corpse (?).
  • .lJean Luc Picard did, but his mind was transferred into a robot - which is apparently super easy - and now everybody treats the robot as if he were the original Picard, but nobody else ever thinks about making backups of themselves, too
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  • McCoy does have a reason though
    The tribble's dead. I'm injecting Khan's platelets into the deceased tissue of a necrotic host. Khan's cells regenerate like nothing I've ever seen, and I want to know why.
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    Scientific curiosity. Not sure Kirk was dead for hours. His death, Spock's battle with Khan and McCoy's development of a serum based on Khan's blood take place in rapid succession. Who can say when the tribble began to revived. Probably well before it chirped.
  • It happens at the end of the last episode. No real time to discuss future implications.
 
Rahul said:
  • Klingons have two dicks according to DIS season 1 finale "will you take my hand".
  • The entire MULTIVERSE grows on a giant space mushroom, on (?) which roots (??) you somehow can travel instantaneous (?!?) according to DIS. If it does, the entire multiverse gets destroyed also, by the way (!!!).

  • The Romulans attacked Mars - because there were a lot of robots - via taking over said robots - out of fear for those robots - destroying a Federation rescue fleet that was specifically built to... wait for it... save 900 million Romulans!

  • Starfleet built a time-travel-suit - more powerful than even the USS Discovery, that can disable the entire planet of Kaminar - TWICE! But never used either the time-travel technology, not the advanced weapons/shield, nor it's warp-capabilities on any suit ever since.

  • Somebody beamed from earth to Kronos - with a device not bigger than a coffee-machine. Nobody ever used that device afterwards ever again, even though our heroes reverse-engineered it.

  • Khan's blood can revive the dead. Not just cure - completely bring back back from the dead after rotting for hours (humans) to days (Tribbles) - which they knew about because McCoy randomly decided to infuse their prisoner's blood probe into a Tribble-corpse (?).

  • .lJean Luc Picard did, but his mind was transferred into a robot - which is apparently super easy - and now everybody treats the robot as if he were the original Picard, but nobody else ever thinks about making backups of themselves, too

  • There are aliens in the Delta-quadrant that look exactly like humans. Yet everybody acts like they have never seen humans before, ever.

  • Two dudes - one of matter, one of antimatter, and one good and the other evil, are having a fistfight that threatens to blow up two whole universes

  • TNG: "Sub Rosa".


All of these are live-action, canon examples, by the way
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I had to spoiler code part of your post.

NO SPOILERS AT ALL FOR PICARD!

:scream:
 
King Daniel Beyond said:
weirdest for me is the centre of the galaxy containing a portal to an alternate universe of magic in "Magicks of Megas Tu". Spock drawing a pentagram on the floor of the rec room then moving chess pieces with his mind is amazing.
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I would love to do a deep fake miniseries enveloping (Menagerie style) the godsworld episodes as occurring there...Apollo on one planet—and Sevrin on Vaal’s planet
 
Rahul said:
  • Klingons have two dicks according to DIS season 1 finale "will you take my hand".
  • The entire MULTIVERSE grows on a giant space mushroom, on (?) which roots (??) you somehow can travel instantaneous (?!?) according to DIS. If it does, the entire multiverse gets destroyed also, by the way (!!!).
  • The Romulans attacked Mars - because there were a lot of robots - via taking over said robots - out of fear for those robots - destroying a Federation rescue fleet that was specifically built to... wait for it... save 900 million Romulans!

  • Starfleet built a time-travel-suit - more powerful than even the USS Discovery, that can disable the entire planet of Kaminar - TWICE! But never used either the time-travel technology, not the advanced weapons/shield, nor it's warp-capabilities on any suit ever since.

  • Somebody beamed from earth to Kronos - with a device not bigger than a coffee-machine. Nobody ever used that device afterwards ever again, even though our heroes reverse-engineered it.

  • Khan's blood can revive the dead. Not just cure - completely bring back back from the dead after rotting for hours (humans) to days (Tribbles) - which they knew about because McCoy randomly decided to infuse their prisoner's blood probe into a Tribble-corpse (?).

  • .lJean Luc Picard did, but his mind was transferred into a robot - which is apparently super easy - and now everybody treats the robot as if he were the original Picard, but nobody else ever thinks about making backups of themselves, too

  • There are aliens in the Delta-quadrant that look exactly like humans. Yet everybody acts like they have never seen humans before, ever.

  • Two dudes - one of matter, one of antimatter, and one good and the other evil, are having a fistfight that threatens to blow up two whole universes

  • TNG: "Sub Rosa".


All of these are live-action, canon examples, by the way
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You win the internet for the rest of this month plus two whole months and one aeon more. :techman:
 
Rahul said:
  • Klingons have two dicks according to DIS season 1 finale "will you take my hand"
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We only saw the streams, not the dick itself, so it could simply have 2 openings.

Rahul said:
  • The Romulans attacked Mars - because there were a lot of robots - via taking over said robots - out of fear for those robots - destroying a Federation rescue fleet that was specifically built to... wait for it... save 900 million Romulans!
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Those robots were not advanced enough to cause any synth fears. The Tal Shiar wanted to stop what they thought was a Federation hoax to invade their planets by removing their citizens under false pretense and colonizing the existing cities with no resistance.

Rahul said:
  • Somebody beamed from earth to Kronos - with a device not bigger than a coffee-machine. Nobody ever used that device afterwards ever again, even though our heroes reverse-engineered it.
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31 always had access to secret advanced technology that they don't share and no one even knows about (before DIS made it a normal non-secret branch). That's how Sloan could've beamed into Bashir's bedroom ;)

Rahul said:
  • Khan's blood can revive the dead. Not just cure - completely bring back back from the dead after rotting for hours (humans) to days (Tribbles) - which they knew about because McCoy randomly decided to infuse their prisoner's blood probe into a Tribble-corpse (?).
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Agumented platelets can repair injured tissues of a fresh corpse, but they can't restore rotten ones or mummies cause there's nothing to repair anymore. Kirk was probably cooled immediately.
 
Regarding the PIC/Romulan spoiler:
It's called fanaticism, it's all around us in real life and makes exactly as much sense as it did in Picard. The Zhat Vash would rather have seen all of Romulus and their empire destroyed than risk unleashing their version of Ragnarok.
It's reflective of today, sadly.
 
Klingons got the worst of the weird lore IMHO. The forehead thing explanation, the dual organs/genitals thing now, & of course the one we sweep under the rug.... sometimes pink blood
 
Rahul said:
Somebody beamed from earth to Kronos - with a device not bigger than a coffee-machine. Nobody ever used that device afterwards ever again, even though our heroes reverse-engineered it.
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This one can be explained, although it's not 100% clear in the movie. When Khan materializes, he's wearing his coat and I believe carrying a bag. So presumably he didn't go directly to Kronos but made several smaller jumps. In fact, the screen in Marcus' office shows a map of Federation and Klingon space with several dots labeled as transwarp network linking all the way from the Neutral Zone into Klingon space. So we can assume Section 31 has a system in place to infiltrate the Klingon Empire.
 
Sakonna said:
This is the bit of lore that may have done the most retroactive changing of Trek I've already seen. The 2-dick revelation really puts a different spin on Worf/Troi! And Riker's reaction!
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It makes zero sense within the universe.
 
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