What Happened to Picard

[F. King Daniel]

I started off knowing he was going to die, and then when they announced 3 seasons, that S1 would end with a near-death.

It's really weird that Picard is a Synth now. Although as they said, it's a standard body with no augments (although I'm sure he'll discover one or two Data-like tricks as the show goes on) so it's more like a clone than anything else. I thought at the time that it was like something the novelverse would do.

It also would have been the perfect oppertunity to re-cast with someone younger. But I'm guessing season 2 or 3 will feature flashbacks to a new young Picard on the Stargazer (or Reliant), and open the door to further Picard adventures once Sir Patrick is finished with Trek.

 

[Saul]

I was really surprised how well Picard took it. He had his time and was basically robbed of his final dignified moments.

I would be horrified to think that I could be copied/transferred to a new body. I think I wouldn't accept the fact that I was really me anymore and that would change me.

Then again, if you've been through a transporter a few hundred thousand times i guess this is no biggie.

 

[Midquest]

For what it's worth, here are some cryptic comments from Chabon about Picard's death and perhaps some indication of what we should expect in season two:

Spoiler

"Q: Will Picard experience any Ship of Theseus ponderings about his new status?
Chabon: I would.

Q: Will the show deal with the philosophical implications of Picard's golemic return?
Chabon: Will it, indeed.

Q: Is Picard bothered being in a synth body considering his past as an exB? Is the Golem 100% organic?
Chabon: He is as likely, perhaps more likely, to feel liberated by it, since it was never violated. And yes, his body was organically cultured and grown."

I mean, it's a little bit "Go not to the Elves for counsel for they will answer both no and yes," but it might suggest what's to come.

 

[SeamusShameless]

At the end of All Good Things, Q told Picard that the exploration of existence itself awaited him. Picard's new status and the Ship of Theseus question that comes along with it plays into Q's tease perfectly.

 

[Terok Nor]

It's the exact same person with all of his memories and everything the man is. The only difference is he's now in another body. I don't particularly like this development but it's the same Picard in my opinion. We even stayed with him as he transferred from one body to another.

 

[ITDUDE]

It's the exact same person with all of his memories and everything the man is. The only difference is he's now in another body. I don't particularly like this development but it's the same Picard in my opinion. We even stayed with him as he transferred from one body to another.

Wonder if Guinan will pick up on the fact it’s not the same old Picard when they meet in Season 2.

 

[Lt.Smokey]

I would imagine it will be an underlying, secondary theme, but hopefully not the major story.

I dont have a problem with what they did here. It's not out of line with Star Trek (Spock, Miles O'Brien. We could probably come up with a lot of Trek deaths that weren't). I do wish they had an extra half hour to explain it, it was rushed for as big a deal it was.

 

[trekfan39]

Hey guys I'd just like to point out that I read in an article that Picard's new body is organic so it's not an android body in the same way Data's was. He'd be more like a clone.

 

[Terok Nor]

Wonder if Guinan will pick up on the fact it’s not the same old Picard when they meet in Season 2.

And does it mean Deanna can't sense his emotions anymore?

 

[Admiral Jean-Luc Picard]

That would be a good excuse to visit Deanna Troi. What do you sense, Counselor?

 

[Phily B]

It's a philosophical question that will likely be explored.

I'm rewatching TNG due to quarantine and you can go back to the Ira Graves episode to see a living man, who died, in the body of an Android. Was Graves actually Graves in Data? If Sisko came back, would he really be Sisko? We see the Dominion basically have lines of Vorta who they transplant memories into when a previous host dies, could Vorta basically be similar, advanced beings that they thought Starfleet were 200-300 years from developing? These are questions they will hopefully be addressing in Season 2.

 

[Imaus]

Hey guys I'd just like to point out that I read in an article that Picard's new body is organic so it's not an android body in the same way Data's was. He'd be more like a clone.

A bioroid, perchance? Blade Runner level stuff. A homage maybe? Instead of cloning Picard, they sculpt a biological mass into his form. I guess cloning might take too long?

 

[Hythlodeus]

It's a philosophical question that will likely be explored.

It's a philosophical question that has been explored this very season

 

[Saul]

Hey guys I'd just like to point out that I read in an article that Picard's new body is organic so it's not an android body in the same way Data's was. He'd be more like a clone.

Maybe he should call himself Shinzon from now on.

 

[Gonzo]

Wonder if Guinan will pick up on the fact it’s not the same old Picard when they meet in Season 2.

Troi will be able to tell immediately due to not being able to read his thoughts.

 

[Makarov]

Couldn't they just have done a transporter buffer clone instead? Probably could even weed out the brain abnormality

 

[Longinus]

Couldn't they just have done a transporter buffer clone instead? Probably could even weed out the brain abnormality

Have they ever been able to intentionally duplicate people with transporters? According to quantum physics that should not be possible.

 

[SG-17]

They transferred Picard's consciousness. Picard in the Android body is still the same Picard. There is no discontinuity here, he is the same person. Not a copy, not a reconstruction.

 

[Admiral Jean-Luc Picard]

My take on this is simple, Picard is both dead and alive. Jean-Luc Picard, the man we knew across The Next Generation, DS9 "Emissary," four movies, and now Picard has died. The man reborn is a digital copy of Picard in an android body, something that survived death. Is he any less Picard? No. Does anyone else see it this way?

 

[The Old Mixer]

For the show's narrative purposes, he'll still be Picard, even if he navel-gazes about it a bit. They won't be changing the title of the show to Star Trek: Picard (golem).