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I imagine that would be extended to cargo haulers across the entirety of the Trek timeline. Whether working within Federation space or not.
and there were Vulcan merchants as well, since Spock pretended to be one in Errand of Mercy.

And of course the Andorian Mining Consortium runs from NO ONE

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I imagine that the currency in Star Trek is based on energy. It's what replicators run on (along with everything else) and it's not hard to imagine you could store it on an isolinear chip to use it like cash or a debit card. Also, in theory it should be good everywhere that has mastered matter/energy conversion.
 
So is us killing each other. That is probably the most fundamental aspects of humanity. We kill each other a lot, for often trivial reasons and without remorse or regret.
Indeed, yes. One of the reasons why things like the Mirror Universe and darker aspects of humanity don't bother me in Trek is because they are opportunities to reminds ourselves that there are fundamental facets of humanity that require awareness and struggle to become better.

I love the idea of "bettering oneself" but I think there is a balance to be struck between recognizing the good and the bad.
 
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I imagine that the currency in Star Trek is based on energy. It's what replicators run on (along with everything else) and it's not hard to imagine you could store it on an isolinear chip to use it like cash or a debit card. Also, in theory it should be good everywhere that has mastered matter/energy conversion.

It seemed like, at least starting in DS9, that latinum was going to be the fairly universal currency, to the point that Federation civilians and Starfleet officers used it, held it and utilized it.

But yes, the "no currency/money" "starfleet isn't the military" and other concepts fall apart under even the barest of scrutiny
 
Indeed, yes. One of the reasons why things like the Mirror Universe and darker aspects of humanity don't bother me in Trek is because they are opportunities to reminds ourselves that there are fundamental facets of humanity that require awareness and struggle to become better.

I love the idea of "bettering oneself" but I think there is a balance to be struck between recognizing the good and the bad.

And see the *struggle* is the part I appreciate..not the "oh we took care of that already so it's not a factor"
 
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It seemed like, at least starting in DS9, that latinum was going to be the fairly universal currency, to the point that Federation civilians and Starfleet officers used it, held it and utilized it.

But yes, the "no currency/money" "starfleet isn't the military" and other concepts fall apart under even the barest of scrutiny
Latinum is definitely the preferred currency of the Ferengi, so it makes sense that it would be commonly used in the areas relatively close to the Ferengi Alliance. It'd be weird to see it used on Earth or Qo'nos though.
 
Latinum is definitely the preferred currency of the Ferengi, so it makes sense that it would be commonly used in the areas relatively close to the Ferengi Alliance. It'd be weird to see it used on Earth or Qo'nos though.

The Cardassian Union also apparently used it as their official currency also
 
Latinum is definitely the preferred currency of the Ferengi, so it makes sense that it would be commonly used in the areas relatively close to the Ferengi Alliance. It'd be weird to see it used on Earth or Qo'nos though.

Would it though? The US dollar is used around the world.
 
The Cardassian Union also apparently used it as their official currency also
Memory Alpha says they use "leks" but either way they're definitely in range of Ferengi commerce so there's no reason they couldn't use both.
Would it though? The US dollar is used around the world.
Okay, not really weird, but probably less common. Energy is useful as a currency because it's easily produced, whereas Latinum is useful as a currency because it's impossible to produce.
 
Memory Alpha says they use "leks" but either way they're definitely in range of Ferengi commerce so there's no reason they couldn't use both.

Okay, not really weird, but probably less common. Energy is useful as a currency because it's easily produced, whereas Latinum is useful as a currency because it's impossible to produce.

Yup, same reason why gold and silver is considered a base unit for commerce..it's fairly rare and cannot authentically be reproduced.

I would imagine perhaps anti-matter would be a viable source of currency units because it's not possible to replicate either.
 
Yup, same reason why gold and silver is considered a base unit for commerce..it's fairly rare and cannot authentically be reproduced.

I would imagine perhaps anti-matter would be a viable source of currency units because it's not possible to replicate either.
Anti-matter works too, but it's more difficult to store. It's basically a source of energy anyway. You can't replicate energy because it takes energy to use the replicator.
 
You would not actually have to walk around with energy in your pocket, just some means of exchance so that it is understood that you have a certain amount of energy credits kept in account.
 
And see the *struggle* is the part I appreciate..not the "oh we took care of that already so it's not a factor"
That's my feeling as well. I love the optimistic future but the whole "Oh, we evolved past that" is not engaging for me because it doesn't tell me how humanity improved. That's why I love Kirk's speech about acknowledging that we are killers but we are not going to kill today.

If you want me to become better first show me the way to be better. Not just "We'll figure it out. We'll evolve."
 
Well, "we evolved past that " can just mean that we've developed cultural, economic, technical, etc. practices which have rendered behavior X unacceptable or even unthinkable under current conditions, without implying an actual change in human nature.

IIRC Quark says something along these lines. Something like "take away their replicators and humans would be worse than Klingons," wasn't it?
 
Well, "we evolved past that " can just mean that we've developed cultural, economic, technical, etc. practices which have rendered behavior X unacceptable or even unthinkable under current conditions, without implying an actual change in human nature.
That is certainly part of that.
 
Well, "we evolved past that " can just mean that we've developed cultural, economic, technical, etc. practices which have rendered behavior X unacceptable or even unthinkable under current conditions, without implying an actual change in human nature.

IIRC Quark says something along these lines. Something like "take away their replicators and humans would be worse than Klingons," wasn't it?

Quark comments in "The Jem-Hadar" that humans don't like Ferengi because they remind them of their past, but in reality (and not entirely incorrectly)..humans were worse.

However yes the only reason why humans have been able to...manage their base instincts (meaning they're still there but are easier to placate) is due to replicators, etc allowing instant gratification of their desires.
 
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