Spoilers Picard 1x1, "Remembrance"

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  1. Datasbeard

    Datasbeard Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    In addition to all the answers about terraforming, this could have also just been hyperbole.
     
  2. Bad Thoughts

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    Has anyone who watched the first episode seen any of the "reviews" by the Fandom Menace? I can't watch it for another couple weeks (though I've read review--I could care less about being spoiled), but it seems like the idiots from Youtube are going out of their way with the butthurt and histrionics.
     
  3. Tarek71

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    Obviously it was a nonsense statement. Between the 4 people involved in the story/scripts and the 10-12 producers, I am sure someone thought that that made sense. Obviously it doesnt.
     
  4. Hythlodeus

    Hythlodeus Commodore Commodore

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    Nah, if I'd want to watch tools, I'd go to a DIY superstore
     
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  5. Greg Cox

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    Hey, I resemble that remark!

    Meanwhile, I liked the interview scene and didn't find the reporter obnoxious or untrustworthy or whatever. She didn't defer to Picard's expressed wishes, but she was being a good reporter: pushing to get the real scoop straight from the horse's mouth, whether he liked it or not.

    I don't see this as an attack on contemporary media, but just how even good-guy reporters have been portrayed in media since The Front Page at least. They're pushy, get in people's faces, and are general pains in the asses, but they get the job done. See also Lois Lane, Carl Kolchak, and any number of other feisty, irreverent fictional muck-rakers.
     
  6. Corran Horn

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    Domes pressurized by some form of automated atmosphere-creation handwave?
     
  7. ITDUDE

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    I got impression that only the ship yards were directly attacked, and atmosphere starting to burn was the side affect of that attack. Presumably everyone else evacuated in time
     
  8. Mirror Tuvix

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    Seth MacFarlane is the true heir of Star Track. For one, his toupee is almost as majestic as Shatner's.
     
  9. thribs

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    Surprised the show isn’t about the major powers trying to get hold of the Red Matter. I suppose it would be too much like the Expanse then. :)
     
  10. Captain_Amasov

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    To be fair if you're gonna blow up Mars at least go crazy with it, Mars should've been flung off out into deep space on its own voyage. We could've named its spinoff Space: 2399!
     
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  11. Tarek71

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    I think red matter has joined tri-lithium warheads and proto-matter Genesis warheads in the strangely forgotten, but immensely powerful, weapons tech list. Combined with sending the warheads thru interstellar beaming, you could wipe out enemies from light years away.
     
  12. Terok Nor

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    It was stunning. The acting, the cinematography, the gentle pace of the writing. It was everything I could have wished for. Stewart, Chabon, Beyer and Kurtzman have hit a home run if the pilot is anything to go by.

    Everyone has probably already name checked all the great things about this episode so I won't bother. Roll on episode 2. I can't wait to meet the rest of the cast and see where this story goes.
     
  13. Amaris

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    It’s just so nice to talk about new Star Trek. :adore:
     
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  14. Mirror Tuvix

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    Mostly, and I can't stress this part enough: Yes it has memberberries, yes it's dark and moody, but #Picard ep 1 wasn't a nauseatingly self-indulgent, franchise-offending, genre-illiterate, inept and grotesque production that Kurtzman is known for. So, that's an improvement!

    Comparing the competency to [Discovery]: a lot of the plot points in EP 1 would have been stretched over three-four episodes in [Disco] pissing off everyone. Here, they're set up, the twist happens and you move forward. This is a good thing.

    A lot of complaints will be "this isn't Gene's vision" and well, first of all, that's overrated. Second, this is a story about forging from failure. There's nothing more "Gene's vision" than striving to be better. Will the show live up to that? I dunno, but we'll see.
     
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  15. Datasbeard

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    Sure it does. People make hyperbolic statements all the time.
     
  16. Kevman7987

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    So after everything went to hell, Picard decided to go retire away from everyone until a young woman comes to him looking for help. Picard decides to become active again to help this woman.

    This sounds similar to the opening of The Last Jedi. I loved TLJ and I love Picard so far.

    I'm disappointed that Data's first daughter Lal wasn't directly mentioned at any point. I hope Bruce Maddox does show up at some point as his disappearance was mentioned.

    So Dahj & Soji are basically the replicants from Blade Runner and/or the organic Cylons from BSG. Which I've always thought of organic artificial life-forms to be an interesting idea. I wonder if someone will refer to them as "skinjobs" at some point?

    I thought the Klingons were Starfleet's oldest enemy? Didn't Archer piss them off a whole year before ever bumping into the Romulans? Or are Klingons being discounted since they've been "allies" since the Khitomer Accords?
     
  17. The Overlord

    The Overlord Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    I do not think the Synths rebelled on their own, that is way too convenient given the timing, I think someone made them do it, to hinder the rescue of the Romulan population.
     
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  18. cooleddie74

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    Well, there was never open warfare betwen humans and Klingons between 2151 and 2155 or 2156, just skirmishes and misunderstandings. Violent encounters though they often were the Empire and Earth were never enemies at that time.
     
  19. thribs

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    Gotta be Lore. :)
     
  20. BillJ

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    Gotta hope not.
     
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