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Spoilers The Flash - Season 6

Thought this one was a bit of a dud and kind of unnecessary. Horrifically killing off Cisco's ex just so he could tell his current girlfriend he loved her kinda felt like a ceremonious fridging to me.

Also, I'm not too keen on Nash.
 
This week's episode was pretty meh to me. I liked the stuff with Nash, but I don't give a crap about cisco's current girlfriend so most of that was just boring.
 
This week's episode was pretty meh to me. I liked the stuff with Nash, but I don't give a crap about cisco's current girlfriend so most of that was just boring.

That's actually a good summary for me as well. I'm not sure why they did an episode of The Flash without actually having The Flash play a significant role in it.

Not their best work. I also don't care about the blood villain. But that's been a problem with Flash in recent years--the big bad villain is not that great. The show's strength is Barry, his bond with his team, and his sheer good nature. Plus, the multiverse stories are really fun.

And I agree that Wells is compelling this year. I love how Ralph found them, though it's a bit unclear how Ralph got them out.

It will be interesting to see what Wells comes up with to save Barry, and when they will finally introduce the anti-monitor.
 
Horrifically killing off Cisco's ex just so he could tell his current girlfriend he loved her kinda felt like a ceremonious fridging to me.

If they'd killed her off while Jessica Camacho was still a recurring presence on the show, I could see that. But looking at her filmography, it seems she's currently in a starring role on CBS's All Rise, a recurring role on Netflix's Another Life, and a supporting role on HBO's Watchmen all at once, so it seems unlikely that The Flash will be getting her back, especially since they wrapped up her plotline over a year ago. So it was a reasonable choice to make use of that real-world finality within the story and tie off that thread, as well as the Cisco-Breacher thread, for good.

Plus it finally let me see that Danny Trejo can do more as an actor than just shout and growl. I've seen virtually none of his work outside this show, and I couldn't get what the big deal was about him as an actor, since he seemed pretty one-note and overly broad to me. But he did a terrific job here. I could see Breacher's grief all over his face when he first came through and sat on the bed; I knew what he was going to say well before he said it.

Anyway, this episode definitely showed signs of the series accommodating the upcoming crossover. It's a Barry- and Iris-light episode, no doubt to accommodate their shooting schedule for CoIE. It's also kind of a bottle show, largely conversations on established sets (and limited location work, basically just a warehouse and an alley) with not too much in the way of FX or action. There was even a "trapped by a rockslide" subplot to keep things constrained.

It seems a bit unfair that Curtis on Arrow got flattery for his beard but nobody complimented Iris on her new hairstyle. The hair change got so much attention in the press a few weeks back that I expected someone to mention it in the show.
 
It seems a bit unfair that Curtis on Arrow got flattery for his beard but nobody complimented Iris on her new hairstyle. The hair change got so much attention in the press a few weeks back that I expected someone to mention it in the show.

First, agreed on Trejo. He's great in everything he does. Second, also agreed on Iris' hair. I think it looked very good on her.
 
I liked Cisco’s story. It felt very Film Noir. His whole life was falling apart and the world was against him. With the mystery of trying to find out why.
 
I liked Cisco’s story. It felt very Film Noir. His whole life was falling apart and the world was against him. With the mystery of trying to find out why.
Agreed. I actually found it better than the average Flash. Maybe they should send Barry on vacation more often.
 
Crisis rightly deserves a detailed documentary and book about the complicated behind the scenes process to get it made. The type of things usually done for major feature films. The schedule on this thing has been crazy.

Marc Guggenheim recently tweeted about that. Main production lasted a month. At certain points all 5 series were filming different pieces of the big puzzle at the same time. But even when they were finished with Crisis they continued working immediately on the next episodes after that.
 
Wondering what the reduced Oliver episode of Arrow will be like.

Unless they worked things around Amell so that he didn't miss any significant time. But now that you mention it, I just realized that recently there was a Black Lightning episode that Black Lightning was barely in. Maybe he was filming Crisis.
 
That was my first thought, but that's Episode 9 of the season and Crisis is 8. Unless they waaaayyyyy filmed out of order.
 
That was my first thought, but that's Episode 9 of the season and Crisis is 8. Unless they waaaayyyyy filmed out of order.

We've had a number of lead-light episodes coming after the crossovers rather than before. The Flash episode right after "Crisis on Earth-X" had Barry trapped in the Thinker's lab for the whole episode, a time-saving bottle-type setup on a single set, and the Supergirl episode two weeks after "Earth-X" had the unconscious Kara similarly confined to her mental landscape in her apartment set as Brainy tried to revive her. The Flash episode right after "Elseworlds" had very little of Barry in it because of crossover shooting.

There can be a lot of overlap in shooting schedules for these crossovers. They're so complex and time-consuming that their schedules stretch out alongside both preceding and following episodes.
 
I am no expert on this but they are filming way, way out of order.

Stephen Amell posted a photo of him and his daughter with a group of other characters. Thanking the Supergirl cast and crew for singing Happy Birthday to her. This was only a few weeks ago and Supergirl is the first part of the crossover. Brandon Routh was dressed as The Atom. Weeks before is when his Superman pictures were posted. Including Waverider scenes probably for Legends. Which is the last part to be aired in January.

I would love to see a filming schedule once all is aired.

Also Brandon is not the only actor playing multiple characters. Hopefully John Wesley Shipp is playing both of his Flashes. I believe Tom Cavangh is playing both Pariah and Reverse Flash. Likely some we do not know about. That complicates scheduling as well.
 
I liked this one, seeing Breacher again was fun, and while killing Gypsy sucked, it was a good way to force Cisco to confront his issues, especially once he appeared to be the one that killed her. Nash is quickly becoming one of my favorite Wells.
 
I liked this one, seeing Breacher again was fun, and while killing Gypsy sucked, it was a good way to force Cisco to confront his issues, especially once he appeared to be the one that killed her. Nash is quickly becoming one of my favorite Wells.
Personally, i am not digging Illinois Wells, er, Nash Wells. He doesn't strike me as in any way sympathetic or interesting.

I am far more anticipating Pariah. I think HE would be a more interesting character to show off Tom Cavanaugh's talents. And sad that he hasn't shown up yet. I mean, Earth 2's destruction in Arrow would have been a perfect spot to introduce him, and have him appear like the Monitor has
 
Personally, i am not digging Illinois Wells, er, Nash Wells. He doesn't strike me as in any way sympathetic or interesting.

I am far more anticipating Pariah. I think HE would be a more interesting character to show off Tom Cavanaugh's talents. And sad that he hasn't shown up yet. I mean, Earth 2's destruction in Arrow would have been a perfect spot to introduce him, and have him appear like the Monitor has

I suspect Nash Wells will become Pariah.
 
That's been my thinking as well. Have they confirmed Nash and Pariah are two different characters? We already got the surprise reveal that Lyla appears to be Harbinger, despite everyone assuming they were going to be different characters. The same thing could always happen here.
 
Me too. Nash Wells’ reaction to hearing about the Monitor shows he knows much more than he has revealed. I suspect his personality is fasle front to hide his past pain. Also it would be very odd to introduce two different Wells in the first half of the season. When everything now is leading to Crisis.
 
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