You keep assuming tings we don’t know.
Disco Writer used the N word in the writers room.
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It is no assumption that Mosely had a right to use that word--the heart of this matter--in recounting his personal experience.
Further, it is no assumption that someone (and as of this date, no one said it was a black person, which would be a highly unlikely case) complained about a man and his use to a word that is directly tied to his life (which the one complaining cannot possibly understand no matter how much anyone tries to pretend they do).
There's no defense of the ridiculous reaction by someone--anyone-- who--by their action--believe they have right to (arrogantly, courtesy of their protected privilege status) define what is racially offensive regarding black people and what is not...when the person in question is black.
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It's amazing how people have viewed this news through such different angles. It's PC culture run amok from one side, minority suppression on one side, and there's those who just see it as corporate HR doing its job, and a guy leaving leaving a lousy work atmosphere.
For the record I've never watched a single episode of Discovery. I don't stream and none of my local libraries have the newly released DVDs. It's my duty as a Star Trek fan to see its current incarnation and some of the most interesting threads are on this subforum. Just saying.
For the record I've never watched a single episode of Discovery. I don't stream and none of my local libraries have the newly released DVDs. It's my duty as a Star Trek fan to see its current incarnation and some of the most interesting threads are on this subforum. Just saying.
For the record I've never watched a single episode of Discovery. I don't stream and none of my local libraries have the newly released DVDs. It's my duty as a Star Trek fan to see its current incarnation and some of the most interesting threads are on this subforum. Just saying.
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Again, to me the worst part about this - the farce of it - is that Discovery recruited an excellent writer with some great SF bona fides who got alienated and quit. The how and the why about it can be debated, but the writing of the show will undoubtedly suffer for it, because he's really just that damn good.
I'd also say that this might be partially a symptom of Discovery being a rather "weak showrunner" type show, which means that it's more subject to the whims of the suits. There's no powerful persona like Ira Steven Behr there running interference between corporate and the rest of the writer's room, and things perhaps haven't gelled enough yet for the writer's room to be a cadre.
I'd also say that this might be partially a symptom of Discovery being a rather "weak showrunner" type show, which means that it's more subject to the whims of the suits. There's no powerful persona like Ira Steven Behr there running interference between corporate and the rest of the writer's room, and things perhaps haven't gelled enough yet for the writer's room to be a cadre.
You might as well have posted a video of Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity.
I looked up Charlie Murphy, you know, Eddie's brother, and an IMDB algorithm thinks that I'm talking about some white bird from Peaky Blinders called Charlie Murphy.
He has a right to use it at his home, in public, and in his writing. He does NOT have a right to use it in the office/workplace. Also we have no idea who turned him in and it does not matter. Also a black person can't define what anyone else finds offensive either. That would be, to use YOUR word, arrogant as well.
Is there a chance, as matter of fact, a LARGE chance these 26 writers are <gulp> LIBERALS???
THANK YOU for making sense.
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You know the more I think about this when this story gets big someone at CBS is proably get fired and it might be Kurtzman. Not for creative reasons but for not getting a handle on this. Proably not the one most responible but someone will need to be sacrificed. Show will likely end after season 3. No Pike show. Patrick Stewart might leave after season 1. Georgiau and cartoons might be safe. Of course we will get new Trek but not the stuff expected. I mean story is going to break down to a black man being fired for talking about racism. How does CBS not take a hit for this? Jason
You just keep wanting to see Kurtzman go.
On paper, everything in HR has Kurtzman cleared. This isn't the first time CBS has had press that looked bad. Worst case scenario: they give him a reprimand. Most likely scenario: They wait for this to blow over.
Kurtzman is contracted with CBS until 2023. As far as we know, he's done nothing to breach anything in that contract. Mosley left on his own accord. He wasn't fired. And even if that hadn't been the case, if Kurtzman is in charge of Trek, the makes him the equivalent of a manager at any other job, so he has the authority to fire someone who works underneath him if he has cause. And something HR would consider actionable is cause. No matter how stupid it is. But, again, that's not what happened. Mosley quit.
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As a liberal, I am becoming more and more tired of a label I'm proud of, even if I seldom use it, being hijacked by this strange neo-victorian brand of confused crusaders who seem to have developed a new form of intolerance based on the idiotic posturing of backlash and the moral spit sink of Tumblr. They're just as bad as the thing they seem to have assembled to resist. I'm a liberal because I believe in a better tomorrow, that is going to require work, communication and comraderie for all. They want points on reddit and a new diagnosis.
I actually don't mind Kurtzman. I just don't want him to have a lifetime appointment at the job like Berman did. Even if I wanted him fired not like this. Done in by a cowardly writer and stuffy suits who proably make all their deccesions based on how they think twitter will react. JasonYou just keep wanting to see Kurtzman go.
On paper, everything in HR has Kurtzman cleared. This isn't the first time CBS has had press that looked bad. Worst case scenario: they give him a reprimand. Most likely scenario: They wait for this to blow over.
Kurtzman is contracted with CBS until 2023. As far as we know, he's done nothing to breach anything in that contract. Mosely left on his own accord. He wasn't fired.
Berman ain’t dead.
Before we get too high and mighty ourselves, the courts have ruled that (1) African Americans do not have a pass when saying the n-word at work and (2) one instance may be enough to create a hostile work environment.
Wherever he is, if rumours are true, he's probably bristling at all the gays and properly dressed women in modern Star Trek.
He wasn't present or involved in anything but bringing the guy on..........why would HE be fired for anything? This was a HR matter. HR did their job. The guy QUIT. I feel that there is LOTS more to this story on both sides..........
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