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Is The Disney Company a hoarder that destroys our favorite franchises?

Yeah, that's what Disney is doing. Lobbying to change copyright laws to suit their own needs. And the reason they can do that is that they are a multi billion dollar corporation that has influence in government. If that's perfectly normal to you, then ok. This conversation is over.
Peace :beer:
 
My original point before I got distracted by this school thing, was that Disney is very likely to lobby for the extension of time a copyright owner can maintain said trademark since their right to Mickey will soon expire. This will have a profound effect on all art.
When a character is as closely associated with your company as Mickey is with Disney, it makes sense the company would want to keep control over them as long as possible. I have no problem with that, if something is associated with one person or one company, then they should be able to keep control of it.
 
When a character is as closely associated with your company as Mickey is with Disney, it makes sense the company would want to keep control over them as long as possible. I have no problem with that, if something is associated with one person or one company, then they should be able to keep control of it.
So you don't believe in the public domain?
 
When a character is as closely associated with your company as Mickey is with Disney, it makes sense the company would want to keep control over them as long as possible. I have no problem with that, if something is associated with one person or one company, then they should be able to keep control of it.
Exactly. The amount of money Disney has vested in Mickey Mouse is rather substantial. Protecting it from infringement makes perfect sense.

It is neither unreasonable nor inappropriate for anyone to protect their investment and personal property.
 
Exactly. The amount of money Disney has vested in Mickey Mouse is rather substantial. Protecting it from infringement makes perfect sense.

It is neither unreasonable nor inappropriate for anyone to protect their investment and personal property.
So you also do not believe in the public domain, right?
 
Oh, come on. The OT Luke is one of the most loved characters in film history to the millions across serval generations who watched the OT in theatres, as he and his journey were compelling. Audiences easily felt his successes, failures and threats to his life/soul along with the character. I'm not seeing some mass numbers of generations saying that about TLJ-Luke at all.

When I was a kid, I never wanted to play Luke, be Luke or anything with Luke.
Han Solo was were it was at.
TLJ Luke was infinitely more interesting and complex than the whiner from the OT.
 
Honest question: does anyone here give a single shit about Mickey Mouse as a character or idea? Have you ever? Because I can't name a single property featuring him that I've seen apart from that one Get a Horse short which was pretty okay, I guess, but not because of anything to do with him.

All of which has absolutely nothing to do with the story being told.
I agree: changing him to a disillusioned/washed-up Union Army veteran wouldn't have changed the story at all. So, it's all the more telling that Disney didn't consider his Confederate history worth modifying. Again, picture an unrepentant former Nazi officer in a similar role.

Him being a Confederate soldier had nothing to do with being pro-Slavery
There is zero context in which being a Confederate officer - not even a forced enlistee, mind, but an officer - has "nothing to do with being pro-Slavery."

As a fan of old pulp stories, I'm actually fairly tolerant of outdated and problematic elements and tropes. But, absent significant mitigating factors, of which there were none here, glorifying the Confederacy, even indirectly, crosses a red line of mine. My two cents. :)

(The movie was mediocre primarily for a hundred other reasons, to boot.)
 
Honest question: does anyone here give a single shit about Mickey Mouse as a character or idea? Have you ever? Because I can't name a single property featuring him that I've seen apart from that one Get a Horse short which was pretty okay, I guess, but not because of anything to do with him.

Yes. I have a kid. He loved the Mickey Mouse Clubhouse -- or whatever it was called. I liked Prince and the Pauper. And there was a Mickey Mouse puzzle game my son and I liked to play.

So, yeah, I give a single shit about Mickey Mouse.
 
When I was a kid, I never wanted to play Luke, be Luke or anything with Luke.
Han Solo was were it was at.

You were an extremely rare case. In the OT years, at conventions and Halloween, I remember more adults, teens and kids dressing as Luke than anyone else in the SW series. Kenner's various Luke action figures were almost always sold out, more than any other character, only rivalled by Vader. That's all due to the character being such a magnetic personality/story. That cannot be said of the upended crap Rian Johnson dumped on audiences.
 
Honest question: does anyone here give a single shit about Mickey Mouse as a character or idea? Have you ever?

No. As far as funny animal cartoon were concerned, Disney's held no appeal, particularly when compared to the work of other studios during the Golden Age of film.
 
You were an extremely rare case.

You literally don't know that for a fact.

In the OT years, at conventions and Halloween, I remember more adults, teens and kids dressing as Luke than anyone else in the SW series. Kenner's various Luke action figures were almost always sold out, more than any other character, only rivalled by Vader. That's all due to the character being such a magnetic personality/story. That cannot be said of the upended crap Rian Johnson dumped on audiences.

OH, I see, we're relying on anecdotal evidence and memory. Gotcha.

Well, everyone I know LOVED Luke from TLJ. Everyone. Literally. I can't think of a single person who didn't think he wasn't more interesting.
 
You literally don't know that for a fact.



OH, I see, we're relying on anecdotal evidence and memory. Gotcha.

Well, everyone I know LOVED Luke from TLJ. Everyone. Literally. I can't think of a single person who didn't think he wasn't more interesting.
In the OT, Han was Rick to Luke's Victor Lazlo. Luke was a hell of a lot more interesting in the last film because he was truly weathered by life. Also, Hamil's performance was much better than his younger days.
 
That cannot be said of the upended crap Rian Johnson dumped on audiences.
That explains why I find Jedi Luke from TLJ figures all over the place...oh, wait, no I can't.

And I can't wait to cosplay as TLJ Luke on Crait. Got the beard for it and everything.
OH, I see, we're relying on anecdotal evidence and memory. Gotcha.

Well, everyone I know LOVED Luke from TLJ. Everyone. Literally. I can't think of a single person who didn't think he wasn't more interesting.
Well, if we're going off of that, none of my friends liked Luke from the OT. Han Solo, Darth Vader and Chewbacca were always top tier. Even Wedge Antilles was sometimes preferred. But, usually Han Solo won out.

I have been to several conventions. Can't recall a single Luke costume.

Anecdotal evidence. For every example of one, there's another. It's weird.
 
Honest question: does anyone here give a single shit about Mickey Mouse as a character or idea? Have you ever? Because I can't name a single property featuring him that I've seen apart from that one Get a Horse short which was pretty okay, I guess, but not because of anything to do with him.

Both the animated Mickey's Clubhouse and the live-action Mickey Mouse Club (both the '50s and '90s versions) are/were extremely popular with kids. We might not give a shit about Mickey Mouse, but the under 10 set fucking loves Mickey Mouse. And Disney is very aware that the under 10 set will force us to buy them a fuck ton of Mickey stuff because of it.

Hell, those stupid ass Mickey ear hats alone probably fund Disney's annual electric bill.
 
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