To each his own but I think most of the general public aren't going to want to consume this show in that manner.
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To each his own but I think most of the general public aren't going to want to consume this show in that manner.
Probably true, but I can only speak for myself.
The fun comes from reading a book a second time and discovering there are all sorts of thing you didn't see that further enriches your experience and understanding and offers additional perspectives that takes the story to another level for you.
Lots of people rewatch TV shows and reread books they like. Catching new things one missed the first time around is part of that experience. But this idea that Star Trek should do all your thinking for you, IMO, is what made much of the previous iterations juvenile SF, the sort of things that SF writers were doing in the 50's but swerved to writing for adults by the end of that decade. I'm happy that with Disco, were getting a bit beyond that.
There was actually an academic study which was done which suggests "spoiling" the end of a story actually improves enjoyment of it. The hypothesis is basically we can't pay attention to the "what/why" and the "how" at the same time. If we're reading or watching for plot, we're not paying close attention to the small details which are dropped in along the way foreshadowing the eventual conclusion.
That's one of the reasons I've long since stopped being bothered by spoilers, and, at times even seek them out.
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Glenn Hetrick posted some pictures of him in his Klingon makeup from the Season Finale.
Glenn Hetrick posted some pictures of him in his Klingon makeup from the Season Finale.
Season 2, at least the first five episodes, span much less time than I thought. In "An Obol for Charon", Linus said he had a cold "last week" and Tilly said it's the second time "this week" she feels like she was hit with a lightning bolt. And Reno is still hanging around. It's also Number One's first chance to see Captain Pike in person since the Enterprise went to dry dock.
If the first four episodes span just a week, it also makes Burnham and Pike finding out about Spock, Amanda visiting, and then Number One telling Pike she only told the Enterprise crew he's in trouble but didn't give any specifics seem a lot more immediate.
If the first four episodes span just a week, it also makes Burnham and Pike finding out about Spock, Amanda visiting, and then Number One telling Pike she only told the Enterprise crew he's in trouble but didn't give any specifics seem a lot more immediate.
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I wonder if it's a case of "too much going on" in each episode, or if it's just that they (the writers, directors, and even art directors) are too messy in the way they present the plot and various subplots in each episode.
I have seen shows with multiple subplots happening in each episode, but presented in a tighter and less messy manner. I think a lot of that depends on the false idea that all action needs to happen at a break-neck pace and the visuals of that action need to jam-packed with detail; it does not.
I don't think the actual velocity at which dramatic action happens on screen necessarily correlates with whether the audience finds that action to be enjoyable and entertaining. And I think a clean, yet thoughtfully composed visual is better than one that has detail and movement everywhere just for the sake of trying to be dynamic.
A dynamic visual composition does not need to be packed with detail.
A dynamic dramatic action scene does not need to have characters zipping breathlessly through it.
If they slow things down, tighten up the dramatic action, and tighten up the visuals, they can get away with having the same multiple number of plots plus subplots in each episode, and they would be able to do so in a manner that allows the characters time to meaningfully interact in ways that more greatly develops those characters and the overall storyline.
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He was the weapon man, the guy next to L'Rell if memory serves.
He was the only Klingon other than L'Rell to speak IIRC.
Only if you discount Ash Tyler as a Klingon.
The guy has the best job in that series he gets to be a Klingon without the hours of make-up.
Only if you discount Ash Tyler as a Klingon.
The guy has the best job in that series he gets to be a Klingon without the hours of make-up.
Nah, man...they go authentic.
First they make-up Shazad Latif to look like a Klingon. Then on top of that Klingon look, they add makeup to make him look like Ash Tyler.
It's an extremely time-intensive makeup procedure.
Is the makeup department in cahoots with Klingon Intelligence Services?Nah, man...they go authentic.
First they make-up Shazad Latif to look like a Klingon. Then on top of that Klingon look, they add makeup to make him look like Ash Tyler.
It's an extremely time-intensive makeup procedure.
It's a more common TV practice than you think, usually as a cost-saving measure. For example, Cersei Lannister offered to blew up Baelor's Sept to assist HBO in streamlining their overblown casting budget.Is the makeup department in cahoots with Klingon Intelligence Services?
She's a politician. They have inner circles who know more than the average citizen. I'd be surprised if there weren't some people who were more "in the know" than others.
There's no such thing as a politician without skeletons in their closet or a deep, dark secret that someone else doesn't know something about but aren't telling everyone. Warriors who are sworn to L'Rell and who benefit more from her being in charge than someone else will go along with it, to keep up the pretense as long as it works to their own advantage.
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Sure, but the Klingons present were the ones she needed to convince that she was her own woman. Now, not only did she lie to them but the question of whether she's a Federation puppet is alive again.
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