Spoilers Game of Thrones: The Final Season

[Miss Chicken]

The Night’s King of the book is a totally different character than the Night King from the show,

GRR Martin states

in the books he is a legendary figure, akin to Lann the Clever and Brandon the Builder, and no more likely to have survived to the present day than they have.[4]

The Night’s King is not the first and the leader of the White Walkers.

According to the Game of Thrones wiki

However, the Night's King fell in love with a woman "with skin as white as the moon and eyes like blue stars"; he loved her though "her skin was cold as ice", and when he gave his seed to her he gave her his soul as well. He brought her to the Nightfort and bound the brothers of the Night's Watch to his will through sorcery. He declared himself "Night's King" and ruled over the Wall and the Gift as his own. The King in the North and Joramun, the King-Beyond-the-Wall, joined forces to defeat him.

After he was killed, it was discovered that he had been making human sacrifices to the Others - the White Walkers - and all records of him were destroyed, and uttering his name was forbidden, so it became lost to history. Nevertheless, it is believed he may have been a Bolton, a Magnar of Skagos, an Umber, a Flint, a Norrey, or a Woodfoot, though Old Nanclaims to know a version of the tale where he was actually a Stark, brother to the King-in-the-North, named Bran.

 

[theenglish]

Here is the link to the "night's king" entry for the books: https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Night's_King

A Storm of Swords
While on his way north, Bran Stark recalls stories told to the Stark children of Night's King and the Nightfort by Old Nan, servant in Winterfell. She said some people believe Night's King was a Bolton, a Magnar of Skagos, an Umber, a Flint, a Norrey, or a Woodfoot. However, she identifies Night's King as a Stark of Winterfell and brother to the King of Winter and suggests his name was Brandon.[1]

A Feast for Crows
While talking with Jon Snow, Samwell Tarly uses Night's King as an example of legendary figures questioned by archmaesters of the Citadel.[3]

 

[Agony_Boothb]

And yet you invested the time and energy to watch the TV series under false pretenses without once bothering to learn what the inspiration for its source material actually was.

Watching a television show and reading a series of novels are two different things, and where did I say I didn't know it was based on the war of the roses? I did know that. I know a lot of random information about the show and the world it is set in. Assumptions make an ass out of you. For the record I invested in season 1, part of season 2 none of season 3 and 4, some of season 5 and 6 and all of season 7. I find the show generally overrated. I'm just glad I didn't invest in reading the novels considering what a shit job was done of tying up a storyline that Jon Snow was working so hard to get everyone invested in.

 

[KennyB]

So far I'm doing well. I guessed that the Night King would be defeated and done by Arya by episode 3........but from here on out I have not got a fucking clue. Next week should set up the political and physical battle for King's Landing......episode 5 directed by Miguel Sapochnik also signals action. While episode 4 is A David Nutter episode, who has done amazing character episodes. I don't think I am even going to try to figure it out and just buckle up and enjoy the next three. Last night was amazing.......I expected more big names to die in the battle actually, and I really did enjoy the take down using Rey's blade drop from TLJ.

 

[EmoBorg]

Did Rhaegal survive ?

 

[Miss Chicken]

^^^ Yes, there are two dragons in the episode 4 preview.

 

[DigificWriter]

In case anyone's wondering, here's a recap of the major Houses rendered extinct by the War of the Five Kings and the Great War:
* House Baratheon
* House Martell
* House Bolton
* House Tyrell
* House Baelish
* House Mormont

 

[EmoBorg]

I think you can add House Karlstark to the list along with House Umber. I recall seeing the young lady Karlstark lying dead towards the end of the battle.

 

[DigificWriter]

I think you can add House Karlstark to the list along with House Umber. I recall seeing the young lady Karlstark lying dead towards the end of the battle.

My list only covered Major Houses. Karstark and Umber are Minor Houses.

 

[EmoBorg]

My list only covered Major Houses. Karstark and Umber are Minor Houses.

How is House Mormont on your major Houses list and not House Karlstark ?

 

[The Nth Doctor]

How is House Mormont on your major Houses list and not House Karlstark ?

Indeed. Nor was House Baelish (was that ever official?) a major house.

 

[DigificWriter]

How is House Mormont on your major Houses list and not House Karstark ?

I consider House Mormont to be a Major House because of its importance to the overall storyline of the series - through Jeor and Jorah primarily - dating back to Season 1.

Indeed. Nor was House Baelish (was that ever official?) a major house.

As with House Mormont, I consider House Baelish to be a Major House because of Littlefinger's importance to the series' overall storyline from Season 1 until his death in Season 7.

 

[Thestral]

Karstark

But yeah, Karstark, Umber, and Mormont are all first-tier Houses under the Starks.

Baelish likewise doesn't qualify as a major House. Littlefinger was an incredibly major character, but he was the only one of any significance, the others were just petty lordlings or even smallfolk under... the Tullys if I recall correctly?

 

[Claudia]

Have to say this ep 3 didn't impress me much. That Arya would be the one to kill the Night King was obvious since at least last episode (that she'd survive that surprised me, albeit).

The big players are still there, all the Starks survived, Daenerys, Tyrion & Jaime,... yeah, there's no army to march against Cersei now, but for all the 90minute-bloodbath... pretty anticlimactic. Liked some bits such as the Tyrion-Sansa, Clegane-Arya, Jorah-Daenerys, but otherwise... well, I'm not that fond of massive battle scenes.

What also bothered me was that there were no tactics, no plan B, especially considering that the Night King only has to raise his arms and his army grows massively due to all the canon-fodder troops that were thrown at the Undead.

Hm... waiting for the inevitable aftermath here. Cersei's chances certainly have gone up.

 

[Cyrus]

I rewatched it. The 70th GOT episode and a great one. 3 more to go.

My main disappointment was the dragons. Neither side used their dragons effectively in the war, and the fight between dragons was confusing.

I liked the scene where the Night King was ready to throw his ice javelin spear at Jon's dragon but Dany's dragon knocked him off and he fell to the ground. After the dragon fire failed to kill him he picked up the javelin from the ground and threw it at Dany's dragon and missed badly. I guess the one time he hit a dragon last season was a lucky shot.

 

[DigificWriter]

Karstark

But yeah, Karstark, Umber, and Mormont are all first-tier Houses under the Starks.

Baelish likewise doesn't qualify as a major House. Littlefinger was an incredibly major character, but he was the only one of any significance, the others were just petty lordlings or even smallfolk under... the Tullys if I recall correctly?

I did some Great House research and found out that in the novels, Littlefinger is officially awarded stewardship of the Riverlands, which raises his House's prominence to the status of Great House even though House Frey claims stewardship of that region for itself since Littlefinger's attentions are elsewhere.

In the show, House Frey is officially made a Great House along with House Bolton, and while House Frey lost all of its male members thanks to Arya, it's not officially Extinct.

 

[Claudia]

Did Gendry die? If so I must have missed it, but I have to say with all the dark scenes it got confusing... but if not, then House Baratheon isn't extinct if you just count bastards.

 

[DigificWriter]

Did Gendry die? If so I must have missed it, but I have to say with all the dark scenes it got confusing... but if not, then House Baratheon isn't extinct if you just count bastards.

Bastards do not 'count' unless they are legally legitimized, which is why House Martell is extinct even though Oberyn has 5 surviving daughters back in Dorne.

So until/unless Gendry is formally recognized as a Baratheon, that House is legally and officially extinct.

 

[Kirk Prime]

Arya finishing the Night King was pretty badass. At first when he caught her, I thought he stabbed her and they both were going to die, but upon a rewatch, he only caught her.

My big complaint about the episode was the stylistic choice to make everything at night and in the dark, making it very hard to follow the battle. Maybe that was a choice so the audience could feel the confusion, but I personally hate that technique. It's like the jittery camera. I want to see what's going on and root for whomever I am rooting for.

The dragons battle was terribly done. I couldn't follow it. Between not knowing who was who and the blizzard and the fog and the darkness, the battle was very hard to follow.

Lyanna Mormont went out like a champ.

I thought we might see a few more deaths than we did. There were like 20 something characters in this episode that we cared about, and only 6 died--7 if you count the Night King.

 

[EmoBorg]

Arya finishing the Night King was pretty badass. At first when he caught her, I thought he stabbed her and they both were going to die, but upon a rewatch, he only caught her.

My big complaint about the episode was the stylistic choice to make everything at night and in the dark, making it very hard to follow the battle. Maybe that was a choice so the audience could feel the confusion, but I personally hate that technique. It's like the jittery camera. I want to see what's going on and root for whomever I am rooting for.

It was so dark that the white walker guards missed Arya sneaking up on the Night King..

(A joke that i saw on the internet)