Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x03 - "Point of Light"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by Commander Richard, Jan 31, 2019.

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  1. cooleddie74

    cooleddie74 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    True. The "Conspiracy(TNG)" aliens were originally intended to have a connection to the Borg but that idea was jettisoned pretty quickly.
     
  2. BillJ

    BillJ The King of Kings Premium Member

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    Weren't they originally supposed to be the Borg? Or am I confusing them with someone else?
     
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  3. cooleddie74

    cooleddie74 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Either way they were going to be the existential threat to the Federation in later seasons and they just decided to drop the parasites and develop the Borg independently of that episode. A prime example of the producers dropping one plot thread and never returning to it.
     
  4. Jackson_Roykirk

    Jackson_Roykirk Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    If you mean when Kurtzman said way back in early 2017 to "be patient" about the explanation of Spock's sister, I don't think he actually said "we will explain why he didn't mention her", but rather simply meant (and I'm paraphrasing/speculating his meaning) "be patient and we'll show you how it all falls in line with canon."

    Plus as BillJ mentioned, things change. I can't find his original mention of this "be patient and Spock's sister will make canonical sense", but I've found articles saying that he did say it. If Kurtzman mentioned this recently, or if you could find the context of his words the first time he said it, I'd appreciate if you can provide links. Thanks. :)
     
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  5. Tuskin38

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    He also said in an interview either this year or late last year that it would be explained.
    He didn't say when it would.
     
  6. BillJ

    BillJ The King of Kings Premium Member

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    She sacrifices herself and is erased from history at some point. Maybe something to do with the ship ending up in the far future.

    Spock somehow ends up being the only one with any memories of her.
     
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  7. Jackson_Roykirk

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    But what words did he use. Did he say "We will explain why Spock never mentioned her" or did he say "We know Spock never mentioned her, but we will explain how she still fits into canon". Those are two different things.

    I did find the original mention from the producers of Burnham being Spock's sister. I think it was at ComiCon in July 2017.

    Here's one article:
    https://screenrant.com/star-trek-discovery-michael-burnham-spock/

    An excerpt from that says:
    The producers acknowledged there's never been any mention of Spock having a half-sister, and asked the fans for patience in telling their story.

    and a Tweet in which Kurtzman said:
    We're aware Spock's stepsister isn't canon. Be patient with us. #SDCC2017 #StarTrekDiscovery
    Neither of those say specifically that It will be explained why Spock doesn't mention her. It simply says it will explain how, despite the fact he never mentioned her, she will still be shown to fit in with canon. It's a subtle distinction, but I think a real one.

    Like I said above, I really hope Burnham and Spock don't go through this current storyline and emerge out of it with Spock still refusing to speak to her or acknowledge her in the future. That would be disappointing from a story-telling perspective. Maybe it will happen, but I hope not.
     
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  8. Gonzo

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    Yeah there are a few ways it can be easily handled, sacrificing herself is an obvious one, Spock may remember or not.

    When you add time travel to the mix anything is possible really.

    The force behind the Red Angels seems to have a specific interest in her and Spock so they could be behind her removal after she has done what is needed, its very much par for the course with the Preservers if it is them.
     
  9. BillJ

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    Lorca seems to have a thing for her. I still think its possible he has something to do with this whole Red Angel business.

    Though, more than likely, whatever she did to Spock gets her kicked out of the family.
     
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  10. Tuskin38

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    He said why

    Let me try and find it
     
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  11. Nerys Myk

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    That's because he has a foster sister, not a stepsister.;)
     
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    What if young Spock (accidentally perhaps) killed one of his bullies from school, and Michael covered it up for him?
     
  13. BillJ

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    Spock's body count is really starting to pile up! :rofl:
     
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  14. cooleddie74

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    Wait until you find out how many neural parasites he killed on Deneva!
     
  15. KirkusOveractus

    KirkusOveractus Commodore Commodore

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    I'm thinking now of her being like Harvey Keitel as The Wolf in Pulp Fiction!
     
  16. Phily B

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    Really boring episode, shame after last week which was classic Trek, this is back to just nothing and I'm really bored of Klingon stuff.

    And how does Ash know of Section 31 again?
     
  17. cooleddie74

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    Well, Ash to an extent now is actually Voq and he could have come to learn of Section 31 before or after his surgery to look human. He's had plenty of opportunities to hear about Section 31 since the war and could well have caught wind of its existence while he was aboard Discovery.

    That or the original Ash heard rumors before the war and retained those memories after he was captured by the Klingons and merged with Voq. I imagine that even a covert organization generates rumors within Starfleet ranks and officers could talk about it from time to time.
     
  18. Jackson_Roykirk

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    I bet if they studied them further, they would have found that they were sentient and intelligent.
     
  19. cooleddie74

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    TOS: sentient or not, kill 'em if they're a threat! I love TOS but let's be honest, Season 1 didn't show the Enterprise officers having the most tolerant nor understanding attitudes about potentially dangerous sentient life forms.
     
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    ^^^
    And at the end of ST: D S1 they outright stated in multiple interviews - "No, we won't be recasting 'Spock' again..." <--- Things change in a creative production environment.
     
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