Ridiculous.
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x03 - "Point of Light"
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Ridiculous.
Ridiculing the past now to justify everything
Maybe people will finally concede that the show violates canon at least instead of arguing about it for pages and pages.
i concede it violates canon
but i also daringly say there is stuff (like pads and communication) where the order of the day is: fuck canon!
that's not true of course if they decided to make the klingons the good guys in a prequell.
there's canon and there's canon and some of it is kinda not relevant. if it were i'd happily accept the spanish inquisition as our new overlords
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I don’t understand his reasoning either. He was harsher on previous episodes.
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/episodes/dis2.htm#pointoflight
Bingo.
I don’t care.You realized what I said applied to you. Very good
I’ve already admitted that some continuity has been violated anyways, so I don’t see the point.
But so have the previous 5 series.
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No one would expect it.i concede it violates canon
but i also daringly say there is stuff (like pads and communication) where the order of the day is: fuck canon!
that's not true of course if they decided to make the klingons the good guys in a prequell.
there's canon and there's canon and some of it is kinda not relevant. if it were i'd happily accept the spanish inquisition as our new overlords
It obvious to me...
You realized what I said applied to you. Very good
Like most 'swamp' creatures, they have to drag everything down to their level in order to survive.
So, with that logic, maybe people will concede:
- Klingons in TMP on? VIOLATES CANON!
- The Trill in "The Host?" VIOLATES CANON!
- Romulans' foreheads in TNG on? VIOLATES CANON!
- Saavik's look? VIOLATES CANON!
- The Klingon bridge from TSFS to TVH? VIOLATES CANON!
- The look of the Andorians and the Tellarites amongst other aliens whose looks changed over time? VIOLATES CANON!
- Starfleet and the Federation are formed out of the events of Enterprise not UESPA? VIOLATES CANON!
- "Tomorrow is Yesterday and "Space Seed" suggests that TOS takes place 200 years in the future where as TWOK suggests 300? VIOLATES CANON!
- Klingons in the Federation (based on dialogue in "Samaratin Snare?" VIOLATES CANON!
- Everyone knows Kirk's middle initial is "R" based on "Where No Man Has Gone Before." Everything else? VIOLATES CANON!
And no one can ever give me a sufficient answer as to WHY it matters so much? We are Star Trek fans. For 53 years we have been trying to make things work that don't work quite right. Now we just don't care because we don't like it? Is that the extent of it?
If its that important to have an explanation, I have an one. Time travel. How many incursions into the timeline have we seen throughout the history of Star Trek? Dozens? How many more do you think there have been that don't involve the crews we've followed? Hundreds? Thousands? My thought has always been that TOS through Generations is the first go-through. Yeah, there are some minor inconsistencies that crop up throughout the story, but they can easily be waved away. Then we have First Contact, which is the nexus point for a new timeline which includes Enterprise. The events of TOS through Generations more or less happens, but apparently Riker and Troi age A LOT before the events of "Pegasus"/"These are the Voyages..." Then the timeline reaches the point where Romulus is destroyed. Somehow, this creates two additional timelines from the point where the Narada goes back in time. One is the Kelvin-verse. The other is the universe where Disco comes into play. Things are different there, but events proceed fairly close to the original prime timeline. Call it a reboot if you have to. I don't care. But it is the new "Prime." This is the timeline that will happen going forward. This is the timeline the Picard series will take place in. Oh, the events happen in the series you know. They just might look a little different.
OR its because Discovery was produced in 2017 on not in 1966. Take your pick.
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It obvious to me...
Like most 'swamp' creatures, they have to drag everything down to their level in order to survive.
Heh ...
I'm not sure if you realize the actual gist of that particular meme in this instance.
Personally, I've never cared for swamp living, but I do have to come up from the sewer most days to get to the gutter.
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I made that particular one. I, too, live in the swamp. I don't drag people down here, though, I just let them arrive naturally, as all do in time.Heh ...
I'm not sure if you realize the gist of that particular meme in this instance.
Personally, I've never cared for swamp living, but I do have to come up from the sewer most days to get to the gutter.
Perhaps not ALL, but it can be a favorite destination for many a Doubting Thomas around here.I made that particular one. I, too, live in the swamp. I don't drag people down here, though, I just let them arrive naturally, as all do in time.
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I have a Pool Room.Perhaps not ALL, but it can be a favorite destination for many a Doubting Thomas around here.
The only thing they did was add hair, everything else about their looks is identical to Season 1.
The facial prosthetics don’t seem as overdone near the mouths and we can more clearly hear what the actors are trying to say. I found Kol Sr. to be an impressive improvement over last season. L’rell still seems to be struggling a little bit with the fake teeth but also generally better, IMO.
Ridiculing the past now to justify everything
We live in strange times. I'm defending the newest Star Trek full-throttle and someone with an avatar of Species 8472 is gate-keeping for the sake of TOS.
Maybe people should stop using "canon" when they mean continuity and stop using violation when they mean "changes I don't like".
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