Spoilers General Disco Chat Thread

[BillJ]

Me and my significant other finished up season one last night, and well, it was rough. Those last three episodes were, for the most part, laughably bad.

Thing is, they almost reeled me back in at the very end. I really liked the scenes between Burnham, Sarek and Amanda. Where Sarek tells her she's been pardoned and has her commission back. Nice, low key, emotional. I was thinking, "wow, they finally are introducing some subtlety". Then there was the scene where they are all Federation heroes.

Favorite comment from my wife during our viewing last night: "how many times are they going to fucking say no win scenario?!"

My wife's supposition:

Spoiler: Season Two

Lorca is the Red Angel

 

[The Habs Fan]

So... when do we find out the title and blurb for episode 2 (and subsequent episodes)? Last night's episode left me wanting more right away. I like the weekly episodes because we can discuss each episode like we used to in the old days, but after an episode as good as last night's I wish I could continue watching it right after.

 

[Tim Thomason]

So, Pike is staying on as a sort-of "co-Captain" with Saru to investigate these red bursts. The actual newly assigned Captain of the Discovery will just be sitting out this season on Vulcan, even though Sarek is allowed to leave Discovery at the first commercial break (via shuttle?).

I guess Starfleet doesn't want Christopher Pike, one of the five greatest Captains of all time, have his authority threatened with some minor functionary on his or her first command. But Pike does it anyway by giving Saru command of the conn while he gets to hang out in a newly built ready room.

 

[XCV330]

So, Pike is staying on as a sort-of "co-Captain" with Saru to investigate these red bursts. The actual newly assigned Captain of the Discovery will just be sitting out this season on Vulcan, even though Sarek is allowed to leave Discovery at the first commercial break (via shuttle?).

I guess Starfleet doesn't want Christopher Pike, one of the five greatest Captains of all time, have his authority threatened with some minor functionary on his or her first command. But Pike does it anyway by giving Saru command of the conn while he gets to hang out in a newly built ready room.

It looked like the initial reason for taking command of the ship was over when he handed command back to Cdr. Saru, which apparently was according to regulations, and a way to show that Pike understood this was not his ship. During the interim he's still senior officer, but he's not commander of the ship. (no Kirk the Jerk demoting Will Decker, this time)

With Enterprise being towed for massive repairs (TOS refit, anyone?) i guess command did not want to waste one of their best officers when they already have him on a ship that has a new mission starfleet assigned Pike as commander of Enterprise. That would presumably bump Saru to XO, unless Una/No 1 comes aboard, then..who knows?

 

[Tim Thomason]

He used the term "joint custody" to refer to his private arrangement with Saru. And then started talking about building a ready room. My guess is he's going to act as mediator and go on away missions and contact Starfleet, but Saru will run the bridge pretty much all of the time. More of a traditional CO/XO arrangement than a "co-Captaincy", but Pike doesn't like having to take over the ship and will cede as much authority as he can.

 

[BillJ]

Pike is the mission commander, Saru is in operational command.

 

[Tuskin38]

The Press Images TrekCore were given of Number One are labelled '204', so it sounds like she'll first show up in Episode 4.

 

[DigificWriter]

Pike is Discovery's officially assigned Captain, but he has worked out a scenario with Saru wherein he will effectively "share" authority, putting Saru's decisions on par with his own.

 

[BillJ]

Pike is Discovery's officially assigned Captain...

Then when it comes right down to it, the final word is his. So he is the captain.

 

[DigificWriter]

Then when it comes right down to it, the final word is his.

Technically, yes, but what it sounds like he's going to do is allow Saru to make binding decisions independently as well and honor them as if they were his own.

 

[XCV330]

Technically, yes, but what it sounds like he's going to do is allow Saru to make binding decisions independently as well and honor them as if they were his own.

I highly doubt that. His character isn't a milquetoast and Saru can learn a lot from him. Not to mention he's ultimately responsible for his ship, now that its his. He has to make the tough calls and not just pass that burden on to Saru. There ARE commanders that do that in real life and they do well in bureaucracies, but I'd hate to see them to do that to pike. I mean.. we all know he winds up in a wheel chair and blinks a light once in awhile, but let the guy have a good seaon.

 

[Tuskin38]

I see Pike being the overall Mission Commander, but Saru will be the ship's commander.

TNG did that a couple times, except the Mission Commander was usually an Admiral.

 

[DigificWriter]

I highly doubt that. His character isn't a milquetoast and Saru can learn a lot from him. Not to mention he's ultimately responsible for his ship, now that its his. He has to make the tough calls and not just pass that burden on to Saru. There ARE commanders that do that in real life and they do well in bureaucracies, but I'd hate to see them to do that to pike. I mean.. we all know he winds up in a wheel chair and blinks a light once in awhile, but let the guy have a good seaon.

He basically did exactly what I described when he let Saru handle the asteroid capture.

Plus Saru has earned the right to the authority Pike has chosen to extend to him.

 

[BillJ]

Got a new Roku Ultra today. Has a CBS All-Access button on the remote.

 

[CorporalClegg]

It's all one needs to access CBS.

 

[Tuskin38]

If they get a Season 3, Georgiou will be in it according to Kadin

http://trekcore.com/blog/2019/01/kurtzman-kadin-picard-georgiou-shows-star-trek-discovery-season-3/

 

[Tuskin38]

Merchandising!

 

[Locutus of Bored]

I would have thought that Section 31 mug shots would go for a lot more. The Tal Shiar or Obsidian Order will pay handsomely for them.

 

[Tuskin38]

I would have thought that Section 31 mug shots would go for a lot more. The Tal Shiar or Obsidian Order will pay handsomely for them.

That took me a minute.

 

[Jackson_Roykirk]

The Press Images TrekCore were given of Number One are labelled '204', so it sounds like she'll first show up in Episode 4.

And THEN will we see the Enterprise bridge? Please?