That's a fair point.
BTW wasn't someone, I think maybe in the UK working on a refractive cloaking device or something like that that could be used as camouflage?
What tropes in science fiction annoy you?
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That's a fair point.
BTW wasn't someone, I think maybe in the UK working on a refractive cloaking device or something like that that could be used as camouflage?
Staying on the Klingon ship would mean Kronos 1, not Chang's invisible BoP - Chang would have to execute them then. Beaming from Kronos 1 to Chang's ship would potentially risk exposing the existence of that ship if anything went wrong, which would destroy the whole plan. And still, one has to remember that everyone working together for the same conspiracy doesn't make them all friends or even truly willing to trust each other. The Federation conspirators likely would not want to be on Chang's ship and Chang and his crew would not want them there. It's highly probable they literally wouldn't be safe there, either.
I always find it funny that they can see ships approaching when they go faster than light. When a missile is supersonic you don't hear it until it hits you and then you don't hear anything.
And when a ship stops, say near Saturn and you're around Earth, you won't know it for several hours, regardless of whether it's cloaked or not.
And when a ship stops, say near Saturn and you're around Earth, you won't know it for several hours, regardless of whether it's cloaked or not.
Yeah but if you knew roughly where the ship was if it wasn't cloaked you might find it.
Ah, see, that was her error. We later find out that she was part of the plot, so she knew the boots were still on the Enterprise. She slipped up and gave away information that only someone on the inside of the plot should know.
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Another bad trope: Klingons don't take prisoners. Of course they do. They interrogate them.
Yet another bad trope: Klingons never surrender. Of course they do, if they have no other optioin. And then they will make their captors lives a living hell as they try to escape.
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Ah, see, that was her error. We later find out that she was part of the plot, so she knew the boots were still on the Enterprise. She slipped up and gave away information that only someone on the inside of the plot should know.
Now then, you slipped up and named the wrong person. It was Valeris, not Saavik, who was in that movie.
But did Burke and Sando hide the boots in the air vent? or did Valeris?
They have sensors that are FTL, and there are different FTL speeds, so....
Not necessarily science fiction, here, but it seems like anytime a submarine has to go silent someone always drops a wrench. I saw Hunter Killer this weekend and sure enough... The sub had to go silent while trying to evade detection and someone, of course, dropped a big wrench... Luckily one of his mates grabbed it just as it was going to hit the floor. I HATE this trope...
The equivalent of that trope happened in "Balance of Terror" when Spock accidentally pressed a button.
Funny enough, the trope was kinda' "flipped" for the movie "Fantastic Voyage" (which played on FXM yesterday). Rather than the Proteus maintaining silence to avoid being heard, the normal sized humans have to maintain quiet so that no sounds would possibly harm the shrunken crew performing repairs within the patient's inner ear. Of course, a tool is dropped in the operating theater, in this case a surgical instrument, and the vibrations transmitted into the patient's ear cause near catastrophe for the miniaturized humans.
Another thing in scifi, even with really advanced technology that affects everyone's day to day life, getting things done still goes through the same processes and channels as modern day.
Like in Voyager's Author Author, to get a holonovel distributed you still have to go through a conventional publisher.
Like in Voyager's Author Author, to get a holonovel distributed you still have to go through a conventional publisher.
I just thought of another one that you see in both sci-fi and fantasy, when a character is given a common modern name, but they spell it weird to make it seem "different". If you're going to give them a name that is obviously a common name, just spell it the normal way.
Sensors can only sense particles that reach them, sensors can no more be FTL than ears be supersonic.
You know that science fiction is different from science fact, right?
Science Fiction should be different from scientific illiteracy, IMO.
FTL engines, communication, and sensors are not "scientifically illiterate." They're the stock and trade of the certain area of sci-fi that Star Trek occupies.
I know that it's common fare. That doesn't make it good.
Plus this is a thread about tropes that annoy me. Well, this is one of them.
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You're not giving me much to work with here...
Just as a reminder: We're supposed to talk about tropes that annoy us in this thread.
I thought Valeris hid the gear after she killed them.
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