Spoilers Star Wars Resistance Season One discussion

[ALF]

It's exactly one week until Star Wars jumps back into our screens/devices!

Star Wars Resistance: Poe Dameron recruits young pilot Kazuda Xiono to become a spy for the Resistance to keep tabs on the growing threat of the First Order.

“The Recruit Parts 1&2” (October 7th) X-wing pilot Kazuda Xiono is recruited for the Resistance, but finds himself in over his head when Poe Dameron assigns him to a remote fueling station to spy on the First Order. Then, after Kaz boasts about being the best pilot around, he is forced to compete in a dangerous sky race. *Guest starring is Oscar Isaac (“Star Wars: The Last Jedi”) as Poe Dameron, Jim Rash (“Community”) and Bobby Moynihan (“DuckTales”) as Flix and Orka, respectively.

“The Triple Dark” (October 14th) Kaz and BB-8 uncover information on an imminent pirate attack and must find a way to stop it. *Gwendoline Christie (“Star Wars: The Last Jedi”) guest stars as Captain Phasma.

“Fuel For The Fire” (October 21st) Kaz befriends a sky racer named Rucklin who pressures him to take some rare and dangerous hyperfuel hidden in Yeager’s office. *Elijah Wood (“The Lord of the Rings” trilogy) guest stars as Jace Rucklin.

“The High Tower” (October 28th) The First Order arrives at the platform for mysterious reasons and Kaz and BB-8 are determined to sneak into the tower to find out what they want. *Donald Faison (“Scrubs”) guest stars as Hype Fazon
https://www.slashfilm.com/star-wars-resistance-elijah-wood/​

We are likely about to get hit with a series of more scenes and trailers in the next few days leading into Sunday. There is likely enough information out there now through screen captures and analysis to start pieces of this pre-The Force Awakens series together.

It's been said that this series takes place 6 months before The Force Awakens but will it remain in that time frame? A likely scenario sees a few time jumps (as Rebels did) to provide the main characters a chance to grow and to explore the time jump that will inevitably take place between episode 8 and 9.

It will be nice to dive into something fresh.

 

[JD]

Wow, it's that close to TFA? I had assumed this was going to be at least a few years before so they would have more time to tell their story without overlapping with the movies. I wonder if this means future seasons will take place during and/or between the movies?

 

[Reverend]

Wow, it's that close to TFA? I had assumed this was going to be at least a few years before so they would have more time to tell their story without overlapping with the movies. I wonder if this means future seasons will take place during and/or between the movies?

Well so far the ST movies seem to span something on the order of a few weeks total between them. Conceivably, the show could skip right over them in a single episode and given how close they are, that could happen by the end of season 1.

 

[The Wormhole]

My person speculation is that seasons 1 and 2 will be before TFA with 3 and 4 being after TLJ and potentially setting up for Episode IX.

 

[Booji]

My person speculation is that seasons 1 and 2 will be before TFA with 3 and 4 being after TLJ and potentially setting up for Episode IX.

I'm thinking along those lines. Maybe they'll catch up with TLJ in the episode before a mid-season 2 break. Then IX releases and they can then start to fill in what happened between XIII & IX when they come back from the break.

 

[Christopher]

By the way, I realized something just now (after an online encounter with another of those fans who bizarrely think that the original Star Wars trilogy wasn't meant for children). The onscreen Star Wars canon at the moment consists of 10 live-action movies totaling about 22.4 hours... and over 200 animated episodes (including the Clone Wars movie and Forces of Destiny) totaling over 71 hours. That means that Star Wars screen canon at the moment is more than 75% animation. And rising. Maybe the ratio will decrease somewhat when and if that live-action TV series finally comes out, but it'd take quite a while now for live-action to catch up, especially if they keep making animated shows. I bet there are kids growing up now who think of Star Wars as an animated franchise with occasional live-action movie spinoffs.

 

[Reverend]

My person speculation is that seasons 1 and 2 will be before TFA with 3 and 4 being after TLJ and potentially setting up for Episode IX.

Given that EpIX will be out in a little over a year, I think it's a little more likely that they'll reach TFA & TLJ sooner rather than later. I mean, what's the point of setting up a movie that's already out?

 

[Christopher]

I mean, what's the point of setting up a movie that's already out?

Dreamworks Dragons: Race to the Edge on Netflix spent from 2015-18 retroactively setting up 2014's How to Train Your Dragon 2, filling in the gap between the first two movies, since it couldn't go beyond the second film until the third one came out. And of course Star Wars Rebels was largely about retroactively setting up the OT and Rogue One. So it is something that's been done before. (See also: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Interquel )

On the other hand, since it's Disney, they might want to go for the same kind of synergy as Agents of SHIELD setting up new Marvel movies in real time. So you certainly could be right.

 

[Booji]

Given that EpIX will be out in a little over a year, I think it's a little more likely that they'll reach TFA & TLJ sooner rather than later. I mean, what's the point of setting up a movie that's already out?

It worked out well for Clone Wars.

 

[ALF]

Wow, it's that close to TFA? I had assumed this was going to be at least a few years before so they would have more time to tell their story without overlapping with the movies. I wonder if this means future seasons will take place during and/or between the movies?

So did I - perhaps we'll be seeing more of Luke's academy/Lor San Tekka/Ben Solo's fall to Snoke in other media/shows.

My person speculation is that seasons 1 and 2 will be before TFA with 3 and 4 being after TLJ and potentially setting up for Episode IX.

I'm thinking along those lines. Maybe they'll catch up with TLJ in the episode before a mid-season 2 break. Then IX releases and they can then start to fill in what happened between XIII & IX when they come back from the break.

I think you're both on the right page and flavaflav's outcome would be the most favorable in terms of being satisfied with new content chronologically that leads into Episode IX. The Wormhole's outcome sounds most likely to me, but has a bit of time overlap.

Given that EpIX will be out in a little over a year, I think it's a little more likely that they'll reach TFA & TLJ sooner rather than later. I mean, what's the point of setting up a movie that's already out?

Certainly I hope you are right, Reverend. We figured similar logic for the end of Rebels - that it would somehow tie into the events of Rogue One, which we now know it only did in a loosely cosmetic sense: Chopper at Yavin base, Hera called on intercom, Ghost both spotted at Yavin IV and later in the battle of Scarif. When Rebels season 2 ended, we saw Twilight of the Apprentice Part II on May 16, 2016 and the next Star Wars thing we saw was Rogue One in December 2016. Not much connecting those two stories. It took two more year to finish Rebels but by that time, it was only a couple of Saw Guerra episodes that tied in.

That said, how great would it be if we see a time jump early in Resistance and settle into the between Episode VIII and IX time frame.

By the way, I realized something just now (after an online encounter with another of those fans who bizarrely think that the original Star Wars trilogy wasn't meant for children). The onscreen Star Wars canon at the moment consists of 10 live-action movies totaling about 22.4 hours... and over 200 animated episodes (including the Clone Wars movie and Forces of Destiny) totaling over 71 hours. That means that Star Wars screen canon at the moment is more than 75% animation. And rising. Maybe the ratio will decrease somewhat when and if that live-action TV series finally comes out, but it'd take quite a while now for live-action to catch up, especially if they keep making animated shows. I bet there are kids growing up now who think of Star Wars as an animated franchise with occasional live-action movie spinoffs.

It always surprises me how often fans will turn up their noses at Star Wars animation. In some ways, it's more successful than the films in exploring the characters in detail. Here's hoping Bob Iger's 'slowdown' won't delay any part of the Resistance show.

Some news:
Sounds like the streaming version of these new episodes will be available at noon Sunday each day they are released... so if you aren't restricted to watching broadcasts, you'll see them earlier.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Tcann13/status/1046546569351159808

Tracy Cannobbio@Tcann13
Replying to@Stephen_Stanton
FWIW, the episodes will be available on demand or on the @DisneyNow app starting much earlier that day (each week). If folks want to set another time. ​

 

[Christopher]

It always surprises me how often fans will turn up their noses at Star Wars animation. In some ways, it's more successful than the films in exploring the characters in detail.

That's just TV vs. movies. There's bound to be more room to explore character in a couple of dozen half-hour or hourlong episodes per year than there's going to be in a 2- to 3-hour movie every 2 to 4 years. And that's true regardless of whether it's live-action or animation (a distinction that's becoming increasingly irrelevant in CGI-rich feature films).

 

[fireproof78]

Given that EpIX will be out in a little over a year, I think it's a little more likely that they'll reach TFA & TLJ sooner rather than later. I mean, what's the point of setting up a movie that's already out?

Isn't that a large majority of the Star Wars productions out there? The Prequels setting up the OT, Clone Wars leading in to ROTS, Rogue One leading literally up to ANH? For a pointless exercise it sure seems to happen a lot.

 

[Christopher]

Isn't that a large majority of the Star Wars productions out there? The Prequels setting up the OT, Clone Wars leading in to ROTS, Rogue One leading literally up to ANH? For a pointless exercise it sure seems to happen a lot.

And Rebels and Forces of Destiny too. And outside of modern canon, the two Ewok TV movies in the '80s were prequels to ROTJ, the later Ewoks animated series was a prequel to the TV movies, and the Droids animated series was about C3PO & R2D2's adventures before the original film. You could also throw in the LEGO Star Wars movies if you wanted. Come to think of it, pretty much the only Star Wars productions that aren't prequels to previously released works are the Original Trilogy, the Tartakovsky Clone Wars, the Sequel Trilogy, and the Holiday Special.

 

[Reverend]

There's a bit of a difference between making a prequel or interquel/sidequel to something that's been out for a while and something that's still very much ongoing. For one thing there's no banking on nostalgia for a story that hasn't been told yet. For another, marketing synergy makes more sense if your hit kid's show gets to springboard directly off of a recent box office success. Remember how the SWR Saw Gerrera two parter came just after the release of RO? You think that was a coincidence?

Also, reality check: if they wanted to expand and explore the pre-TFA era with this without worrying about butting up against the movies for some time, then they wouldn't have decided to set it mere months before said movies. They could have chosen a year, or five years.
No, I think we're going to get one season of relatively low stakes set-up before the characters plunge head first into the larger conflict and we'll see some kind of perspective of the events of the movies.

 

[Christopher]

There's a bit of a difference between making a prequel or interquel/sidequel to something that's been out for a while and something that's still very much ongoing.

The How to Train Your Dragon film series is ongoing, which is the whole reason they had to set the animated series before the second film, due to not knowing (or not wanting to spoil) how things would change in the third film.

Alternatively, one reason to keep a post-movie tie-in series set before that movie is to avoid having to adopt the changes in that movie. That applies to Dreamworks Dragons with regard to at least one major character. Another example is DC's Star Trek comic series, which continued doing stories set between ST V & VI for four years after ST VI came out, because obviously they couldn't tell Enterprise stories set after the Enterprise was decommissioned.

For one thing there's no banking on nostalgia for a story that hasn't been told yet. For another, marketing synergy makes more sense if your hit kid's show gets to springboard directly off of a recent box office success. Remember how the SWR Saw Gerrera two parter came just after the release of RO? You think that was a coincidence?

That's certainly true, but note that that 2-parter was not set immediately before Rogue One; it just tied into its characters and foreshadowed its events. So that argument supports your premise but doesn't rule out alternatives.

Also, reality check: if they wanted to expand and explore the pre-TFA era with this without worrying about butting up against the movies for some time, then they wouldn't have decided to set it mere months before said movies. They could have chosen a year, or five years.

There's no reason a TV series has to unfold in real time. Avatar: The Last Airbender ran for 3 seasons but told a story spanning a bit more than half a year (the winter solstice came 1/3 of the way into season 1 and the series ended on the following summer solstice). The first four seasons of Lost spanned one month each. And of course The Clone Wars spent six seasons (with more planned) jumping around the timeline of a 3-year war. So just because Rebels unfolded at roughly one year per season doesn't mean Resistance will too. It's entirely possible that Resistance could take 3-6 seasons to span those 6 months before TFA.

 

[JD]

StarWars.com has posted an interview with Kaz voice actor Christopher Sean. I like to hear that they are recording the actors together, you tend to better performances that way since the actors can play off each other a lot more.

 

[Tuskin38]

They did that with Rebels and Clone Wars as well IIRC

 

[ALF]

Some talk about the timeline in this article on SyFy today:
https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/star-...ts-and-will-cross-over-with-the-force-awakens

"The choice for the timeline of the show, set six months before the events of Star Wars: The Force Awakens, was a decision based on the target audience, too.

"It's a little hard for the younger fans to wrap their heads around it if it was, say 15 years before The Force Awakens," Auman explains. "Then it's a very nebulous timeline. You're kind of not sure. The fact that we've got Poe Dameron and BB-8 from the very beginning — kids and any fan of any age automatically just know... 'This is the new movies, this is where it's gonna take place,' so it's just easier. And it was just fun to kind of roll in and back up a little bit instead of just trying to follow exactly where the movies are at."
...
This is still Star Wars, there's still good guys and bad guys, it's just there's not a war going on at this point, so we don't start off heavy with conflict, we have to see how the First Order is building up. This is part of [series lead] Kaz Xiono's mission: to figure out what that is and report it to the Resistance."​

 

[Tuskin38]

Resistance has 22 episodes

https://twitter.com/Tcann13/status/1047478602491543552

 

[ALF]

Resistance has 22 episodes

https://twitter.com/Tcann13/status/1047478602491543552

Very nice. Rebels had only 13 in their first season.

I figured we'd have more clips by now (premiere is tomorrow) and there's only been one clip so far, an exclusive that Bobby Moynihan was able to share on Instagram - you'll likely have to click the link to see it, but you don't need to have Instagram to watch it:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BohpGDsF2pz/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link