But all evidence points to the contrary.
It's a show set in the Star Trek universe and uses elements from it as it sees fit.
How can it be "out of character" when it's the character's first appearance?
Hardly. The character was brand new, and Nimoy himself was creating an entire alien race from scratch.
Wouldn't bother me, so long as they avoided (or at least further and more directly addressed the ethical implications of) the angle of them being initially instructor and student, complete with glib double entendres about "aural/oral exams" and such, which is what I personally didn't care for in how the matter was handled by ST'09...
-MMoM
I largely agree...again, except for the way it was initially introduced, which I still find a disservice to both characters. Uhura gets herself assigned to the Enterprise in the first place by virtue of having slept with Spock? That really wasn't so great, IMO. Everything after that, I have little quarrel with, and if only they hadn't so carelessly fumbled the setup, it all would probably have gone down a lot easier, at least with those of us who weren't just intractably set against the idea of Spock having any such sort of relationship, period. I love their scene in the turbolift following the loss of Vulcan and Amanda where she asks him how she can help and he tells her to keep performing admirably, and the one in Into Darkness where Kirk gets awkwardly caught in the middle of their tiff on the way down to Qo'noS. That's all good stuff, there.
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That was a less than polished moment, though IIRC she stressed her accomplishments and essentially suggested he was keeping her OFF for having been involved with her, rather than him initially putting her ON the ship because of the relationship. Moreover, there is no explicit information, again IIRC, suggesting their relationship was ongoing while she was a student in his class. Lastly, the writer's strike precluded re-vamping the script to smooth out such minor flaws.I largely agree...again, except for the way it was initially introduced, which I still find a disservice to both characters. Uhura gets herself assigned to the Enterprise in the first place by virtue of having slept with Spock? That really wasn't so great, IMO. Everything after that, I have little quarrel with, and if only they hadn't so carelessly fumbled the setup, it all would probably have gone down a lot easier, at least with those of us who weren't just intractably set against the idea of Spock having any such sort of relationship, period. I love their scene in the turbolift following the loss of Vulcan and Amanda where she asks him how she can help and he tells her to keep performing admirably, and the one in Into Darkness where Kirk gets awkwardly caught in the middle of their tiff on the way down to Qo'noS. That's all good stuff, there.
(Of course, in reality there should still be some ethical thorns surrounding the issue of a superior officer being romantically involved with a subordinate, but considering how many times that sort of situation crops up elsewhere in Trek, I can't really get too worked up about it, in all fairness. Nonetheless, it might have been nice to explore that in more depth, with it becoming a source of greater conflict as things went on...perhaps even the reason Spock wanted to break it off in Beyond, instead of or in addition to his considered responsibility of making little Vulcans. Again though, that's a lesser quibble. However, speaking of the matter now in speculative context of porting over such a relationship to Prime...might this figure into Uhura's apparent move from the command division to operations in early TOS? Fascinating...
-MMoM
Not to harp on this too hard here, but I'm afraid that is entirely irrelevant to the issue. He initially assigned her to the Farragut in a conscious effort to avoid the appearance of favoritism toward her...meaning his decision was influenced by their relationship. She then demanded that he put her on the Enterprise instead, and he relented, but that only compounds the problem rather than obviating it. The point is that he shouldn't have been the one determining her assignment at all if he was romantically involved with her.
I'm a bit confused...wasn't she his student right up until then? Otherwise, why would he be the one giving her her assignment? I didn't get the impression their relationship was or had been on hiatus at that point? (I haven't watched it in a while, though. I also haven't read the novelization or anything like that.)
Fair enough. More's the pity, because with just a few minor tweaks it might have reflected much better on both characters from the outset. Rather than the relationship being presented as a preexisting arrangement, it could have been made clear that thereto there had been merely an unspoken mutual attraction between them, which Spock had pointedly refused to acknowledge or act upon due to its "impropriety," and yet had unconsciously overcompensated for by not assigning her to the Enterprise, which she could have called him out on, and then it would only be later, as she sought to console and support him in the aftermath of his loss (and upon deliberation of the potential implications in consultation with his father, who would encourage him by revealing his own love for Amanda, just as in the released version) that he would come to allow himself to accept and reciprocate her overtures, with them both agreeing openly that they might have to discontinue their relationship should it ever come to interfere with their respective duties.
I largely agree...again, except for the way it was initially introduced, which I still find a disservice to both characters. Uhura gets herself assigned to the Enterprise in the first place by virtue of having slept with Spock? That really wasn't so great, IMO. Everything after that, I have little quarrel with, and if only they hadn't so carelessly fumbled the setup, it all would probably have gone down a lot easier, at least with those of us who weren't just intractably set against the idea of Spock having any such sort of relationship, period. I love their scene in the turbolift following the loss of Vulcan and Amanda where she asks him how she can help and he tells her to keep performing admirably, and the one in Into Darkness where Kirk gets awkwardly caught in the middle of their tiff on the way down to Qo'noS. That's all good stuff, there.
(Of course, in reality there should still be some ethical thorns surrounding the issue of a superior officer being romantically involved with a subordinate, but considering how many times that sort of situation crops up elsewhere in Trek, I can't really get too worked up about it, in all fairness. Nonetheless, it might have been nice to explore that in more depth, with it becoming a source of greater conflict as things went on...perhaps even the reason Spock wanted to break it off in Beyond, instead of or in addition to his considered responsibility of making little Vulcans. Again though, that's a lesser quibble. However, speaking of the matter now in speculative context of porting over such a relationship to Prime...might this figure into Uhura's apparent move from the command division to operations in early TOS? Fascinating...
-MMoM
I loved that scene. They're a family, not a military unit. And families bicker, even at inopportune moments.
And how much fun would watching the crew fly down to Kronos in a stony silence? How would have have advanced any of the plotlines?
