Not really. Story that follows on from the events of another.
If it’s just a few characters in a totally different story, particularly if there’s an episodic franchise or similar involved, then it’s just another episode.
Ethan Peck cast as DSC's Spock
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Not really. Story that follows on from the events of another.
If it’s just a few characters in a totally different story, particularly if there’s an episodic franchise or similar involved, then it’s just another episode.
So Star Trek VI isn’t a sequel to Star Trek V?
And Star Trek II isn’t a sequel to TMP?
And GEN isn’t a sequel to VI?
And...all the TNG movies aren’t sequels to one another? Except for maybe a reference in FC to GEN, when Picard’s mentions the Enterprise is new?
(Even though actually getting the new Enterprise didn’t happen in GEN, so it’s not really a reference to prior movie events and AARRRRRGHEHATISHAPPENINGTOME!!!??)
And Star Trek II isn’t a sequel to TMP?
And GEN isn’t a sequel to VI?
And...all the TNG movies aren’t sequels to one another? Except for maybe a reference in FC to GEN, when Picard’s mentions the Enterprise is new?
(Even though actually getting the new Enterprise didn’t happen in GEN, so it’s not really a reference to prior movie events and AARRRRRGHEHATISHAPPENINGTOME!!!??)
oh yeah, back then they knew better than t-
All these examples are examples of the baton being handed over in a relay race. For the new guys to take over.
What DIS does, is take their new guy, and having the first runner carry him on his shoulders through the second race. With a horrible time as a result....
And quite honestly: You know you're dishonest with this comparison. You're just doing it for the attention...
The vents in the story tied to VI fit into VI...that interquel word I threw around, or side story, the actual events of flashback have nothing to do with Star Trek VI. It’s an episode of Voyager, talking about a Voyager character. Plus, as I said, it’s an anniversary episode...that’s what the excelsior bits are for. They aren’t carrying on the events of VI, just using them as backdrop. The ferengi that got left in the delta quadrant? That’s a sequel, the events of the second story are dependent on the events of the first.
*shrug* the line is fuzzy in franchises and episodic television, but it’s still there.
Nope. Basically episodes in an ongoing franchise. Nobbly bits for TMP to II, as II is a sequel to TOS, which obviously leads into TMP. It also carries on the ‘aging Kirk’ themes. But some people see it as a reboot after TMP anyway. It’s in continuity with, but isn’t a sequel. VI Has nothing to do with VI apart from being in the same franchise/setting...story wise it basically ignores everything in V, from the enterprise being new to the entente with Klingons and Romulans seen at the end. VI ties more to the earlier 2/3/4 trilogy.
All the TNG films are basically episodic, please note they drop numbering the films at this point, except for F.C. which depends on TBOBW and is a sequel. There’s a compelling argument for Generations being a sequel to multiple TNG episodes, and for it capping off the ‘aging Kirk’ arc present in most of the previous movies. But ultimately, this simply highlights its nature as an episode in an ongoing franchise.
If there’s nothing sequential, it is t really a sequel.
Sulu’s scenes are sequels to his scenes in TUC. It doesn’t actually matter if it’s ‘backdrop.’
It also doesn’t matter if it’s also an interquel. (For eg. Attack of the Clones is a prequel, interquel, and sequel.) But that’s neither here nor there.
Yet the people making them labelled them as sequels.
Probably because they fit the standard and technical definitions of one. Which is...kinda all that matters for the purpose of discussion.
You can think whatever you like. But communication actually requires adhering to a level of common understanding. Which making up your own definitions and expecting everyone else to treat them (and the points that are built upon them) seriously...isn’t that.
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They didn’t take place after though. They took place during. And it’s not really Sulu, it’s Tuvoks memory of Sulu, and it’s been fiddled with. Sulu never meets Janeway.
You could tell the exact same story, Tuvok has memory parasite messing with him, without the Flashback. The events of TUC don’t really set up any actual event in Flashback. If memory serves, it even contradicts the events of TUC in small ways. Unification I and II are not sequels to anything with Spock, but because of Picards mind meld, they are a sequel to Sarek. Because of Sela it is a sequel to Yesterday’s Enterprise. Mostly it’s an advert in a popular TV show for its then waning parent (film) series.
Oh, it’s a memory of the events of TUC.
So...a sequential event that builds from the former.
(If the typing delay on this board was a person, I would strangle it. It’s fucks with my autocorrect like nobodies business, and what it does to ‘backspace’ should be outright criminal.)
It doesn’t though does it? The only link is ‘oh, I was there’ for Tuvok. The actual events have pretty much zero bearing on the story. Maybe less, because it’s all in his head. Elementary Dear Data is not a sequel to any Sherlock Holmes stories, it’s just using the setting. Especially as, in Flashback, Tuvok is being retconned onto the Excelsior.
Ironically, it would have worked better if they had retconned him onto the Reliant, had Chekhov appear, and revealed he had a parasitic infection he picked up after being marooned on Céti Alpha V. Because then the events would make sense, and it would be an actual sequel to events.
How about this? (EDIT because Imgur problems)
Reminds me of a young Soval. Still, I can't wait for this season to get going.
That isn't the same video
But it doesn't matter, I've seen the original video that I quoted before, I couldn't see the full title on mobile (or that Fireproof was quoting someone) so I thought it was something new. I had no context.
He has the perfect face to play a Vulcan. Or some other alien. It's kind of weird and unusual, but in a good way. I just don't see "Spock" in it. Not the way I did for example with Quinto.
I like the voice - you can hear echoes of Gregory Peck there. Would have preferred a leaner, craggier look. Nimoy's Spock seemed to cycle between ugly and handsome from scene to scene. Overall, am okay with the choice. It will all depend on his ability to convey the heart of the character onscreen - hopefully, as someone already said, with some nods to the original's mannerisms. To me, he actually somewhat resembles the new Sarek, which I suppose is a good thing.
Did they glue Frain's ears down in that pic?
Sorry, no, nothing new. Just highlighting that Discovery was marketed as a prequel to TOS. So, it was just a link to one of the early teaser trailers.
Nah. I would have rather they got actors that resemble Mark Leonard and Leonard Nimoy respectively.
It's easier to get away with actors not looking the part in the alternate Kelvin-verse.... but selling STD as a prequel to TOS in the Prime timeline is a harder sell when you visually reboot.
At least to those who remember and care about TOS... a group of fans who will eventually die off, so sadly it won't matter to CBS in the long term.
Who is Mark Leonard?
How about this? (EDIT because Imgur problems)
Sadly, that's most likely what he will look like onscreen as Speck.
He really doesn't look anything like Spock or Nimoy though. I think Gene specifically said he went after Nimoy because of his Devilish alien-esque features. He wanted Spock to look like Satan. Nimoy's Spock has such an iconic look. Ethan looks like some generic CW white guy, cosplaying as a Vulcan.
It's funny, the more the Spock role is re-cast, the further we gradually move away from the Nimoy template. I suppose it was inevitable.
Well, since Spock and McCoy were both born before the timeline split it doesn't really make sense for them to look different; except for the obvious recasting reason.
Of course the case that the actor doesn't look similarly enough can be made literally always unless you cloned an actor, it just becomes more ridiculous the closer you get to the original.
He's a little known political scientist.