Cap is shy, he needs coaxing.
Marvel Phase 4 Will Introduce More Female Heroes - Kevin Feige
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Cap is shy, he needs coaxing.
Kevin Feige also knows how to answer press questions in a way that works. He's dodged bullets like this before.
It doesn't guarantee that his statement will be accurate ultimately.
I think you're going to be in for a very big surprise/letdown. I highly expect Downey to be done after The Untitled Sequel.
Someone's projecting insecurities, it isn't me.
Whilst being visibly archaic and underrepresenting half of the human race. Hardcore porn sells in vast numbers, doesn't make it any less sexist.
Who's second guessing their business decisions? It was you who started making declarations about what "would have happened", no one else. This whole diversion in to hypothetical scenarios has been at your behest.
What makes you think they wouldn't?
But there's the problem, no one but you is talking about it being more financially successful. What you are seeing is a lot of women feeling they would have liked to see female leads, that the MCU has succeeded despite an inherent structual misogyny.
Okay there. I suggest you go back and read the opening post of this thread, where I said that adding more females in Marvel is a great idea now... because I trust Feige and the creatives. Their track record with female characters is perfect so far.
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LOL. If you want to blame in on me, so be it.
I don't care about the hypothetical. I care about reality, and in reality they've done everything right with this franchise thus far, and the numbers prove it. It's a massive success on all fronts, and all of their decisions have been met with success... including the exclusion of female-led franchises till now.
The timing wasn't right for them during the earlier phases of Marvel Studios, when they were winning over the fans, critics and audiences. However, the time is right now, as stated in the opening post.
What women? It seems like we're men on this forum having this discussion. And if you mean in broader society, perhaps. That's why we're getting female-led films now. I doubt the interest for these would be as strong several years ago from general movie-going women. Especially in the 2000s, after Elektra, Catwoman and many other fails.
Female leads are fine for the MCU now, but my point is that kind of risk wouldn't have worked during the earlier phases and we wouldn't be at the same level of incredible success now if Feige and Co. made alternate decisions than the successful ones they went for.
You start pulling threads out of the tapestry of the MCU, and you'll get a mess like the DCEU.
It isn't misogyny in the slightest. In fact bending over backwards to cater to socio-political groups in the early days of Marvel would have damned the franchise and created division, in the same way we're seeing with Kathleen's Star Wars.
Marvel Studios had a massive uphill battle starting from nowhere and becoming an empire. Only now are they in a great place to launch female-led franchises knowing that fans, audiences and critics will accept them the same as all the other properties.
Downey isn't going anywhere if the money is there for him. Disney wants him. He's the MCU MVP and mascot, and Downey likes the money.
This isn't like a Hugh Jackman situation where he's constantly saying he wants out. Downey is looking for the best deal he can get out of this. He doesn't have much outside this. He's tried and nothings panned out. He's also very invested in the MCU. I wouldn't be surprised if Downey gets producer status during Phase 4.
Evans is really the only one who publicly expressed significant interest in leaving the MCU, but that also should be taken with a grain of salt. Such negotiation tactics are common.
Yeah, they’re setting up for a large number (if not all) of the original Avengers to sacrifice themselves in part 4. If Tony doesn’t die, I imagine they’re going to retire him. After all, they set up a child for him and Pepper in IW.
Also, RDJ is 53. He will not be playing this character for ever.
I’d love to be wrong about this but I don’t think I am.
Also, RDJ is 53. He will not be playing this character for ever.
I’d love to be wrong about this but I don’t think I am.
Fair warning, PAD wrote like sixty Captain Marvel issues and only the final one (issue #25 because it wouldn't be Marvel if it didn't relaunch after 35 issues) is really fourth wall breaking. Although reading all of them is certainly very satisfying and also fun and very disturbing at times.
I literally just got that issue signed by him at a convention 4 weeks ago! Great stuff.
Unfortunately, my sister (who sneakily read most of what I got) loved that run so much she refuses to see the Captain Marvel movie knowing it's Carol (who she really doesn't like) and not Genis.
Look up and down this thread. You'll find there are several female posters. They aren't agreeing with you.
What was difficult about that idea?
Something selling in huge numbers does not equate to "doing a great job" on gender equality.
It was you?
So why keep basing your arguments on it?
Again, lots of things can make money, no one is doubting the MCU has been an incredible cash cow. So are many things which are fundamentally sexist.
Not at all. The thing is none of the women are agreeing with your assessment of how well they've been treated. Perhaps you ought to listen to them?
Again, why not?
You mean the enormously successful female led films she oversaw which the fans loved, made an absurd amount of money and are winning awards?
Let's make this abundantly clear, discriminating against women because you believe it's profitable to do so is absolutely misogyny.
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I still believe Downey's going to stick around post Thanos as an exclusively supporting character. Quite probably a cgi character, actually (Tony Stark AI). It would allow them to phase out Iron Man (whose story is basically done, and who likely will have a heroic death in A4) while keeping Downey's face on the posters. He could keep getting his ridiculously high pay rates, but the lower screen time would mean he wouldn't be breaking the budget of every movie he's in. And the cgi nature of the character would actually make it easier to mask Downey's aging long term. Even better if Downey gets a sweet behind the scenes deal as a producer or something like that for incentive.
I'm jealous now
I start to understand why people use gifs in responses to other posts. It's fun.
There you have it, you literally have a picture of yourself as your avatar and he didn't even notice, because he assumes sci fi fans are male and doesn't bother to check.
But he isn't sexist.
I just checked other participants of the discussion and except for Thribs none display a gender when you click on their avatar.
We can't really say for definite that having more female superheroines earlier wouldn't have worked, if the story was well told it likely would have worked.
Which means one shouldn't assume I should think and that any assumptions one does make are instances of projection.....
