Spoilers Avengers: Infinity War grade and discussion thread

[Kolrad]

The ending of Avengers suggested that Thanos was unfamiliar with Earth. Unlikely if it was in his home star system.

Also, Ebony Maw's ship took at least as long to get from Earth to Titan as the Guardians took to get from the Asgardian Ark to Knowhere.

And lastly, the Titan in this movie looked nothing like Titan, moon of Saturn.

 

[FPAlpha]

What I'm most curious about right now is how they're going to handle half the population of the universe reappearing in A4, because however they handle certain individual characters, it seems like a no-brainer that most of it will be undone. So my question is will the people who weren't vaporised remember spending a year in a world with half of everyone gone, or will it be a reverse time thing?

Not sure which way I'd rather they go since both options are going to be problematic. The latter seems a bit cheap and hand-wavy and may bugger up what the TV/Netflix people are doing, in a "Bobby walking out of the shower on 'Dallas'" kind of way. The former is more interesting but how the ever-loving hell does any civilisation get back to any semblance or normality after not one, but two gargantuan population shifts in one year? For better or worse that should fundamentally change things forever.

My guess is they won't be able to undo most of the damage (apart from a few characters who still have solo movies coming). Marvel has shown that they are not afraid of shaking up the status quo.. who has expected Shield to be destroyed in Cap 2? That was a major game changer in the MCU and this could be the next one. I really hope Marvel remains steadfast and doesn't use the reset button (coincidentally there's currently Voyager - Year of Hell airing on TV right now as i'm typing this ).

I think Thanos motivation is one hell of a thing.. the biggest mass murderer in the history of the universe but the end result? It worked.. fascinating conundrum.

 

[Trekker4747]

Who said it took a significant amount of time to travel from Earth to Titan?

Inferred from how much that happens between the ship leaving Earth and crashing on Titan. How long does ot take that trip at c? Maybe an hour? The ship was also moving faster than c, judging by the warp/hyperspace effect out the window. Plus no shots of Saturn from the surface. Regardless of the comics, idea seems to be this Titan is its own planet elsewhere in space.

 

[LJones41]

I'm sad Xander is gone. Lots of good people there like John C Reilly and Glen Close's characters

I really wish we had seen this on screen. To be told about Xandar's destruction in the beginning of the film reminded me that some of the narrative seemed rushed.

 

[M'rk son of Mogh]

I think Thanos motivation is one hell of a thing.. the biggest mass murderer in the history of the universe but the end result? It worked.. fascinating conundrum.

The only thing that worked was his success in killing. We don't know if every (or any) planet would fall the same way his did. It's possible, sure, but there's no guarantee. There is no conundrum, if he can literally do anything with the gauntlet, killing half of all life can't be the only solution. It's simply the one he believes to be the correct one. But it doesn't make him right, not even close.

 

[M'rk son of Mogh]

I really wish we had seen this on screen. To be told about Xandar's destruction in the beginning of the film reminded me that some of the narrative seemed rushed.

But showing it would have added nothing but a longer run time (even saying it out loud added little, it was easy to connect those dots). Every other movie is a disaster movie these days, it would have added nothing new to the table.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

I need to see it again before feeling I could give it a solid rating. It did seem to me to be the ultimate Marvel movie following the formula to the letter for better or worse. I think they did a good job with Thanos as a villain making him more than just some mu-ha-ha evil force. It was hard getting behind some of the hero's actions like Star-Lord and I don't think they built Vision up enough to warrant not giving more consideration to the sacrifice.

 

[David cgc]

If Agenst of SHIELD embraced that next year, with half of the cast gone, that would be amazeballs.

Spoiler: Agents of SHIELD

The way they're heading, it's looking half the population dissolving on AoS might not even be noticed with everything else going on.

 

[Gryffindorian]

Regardless of Thanos' motives to bring about balance into the universe, he is a malevolent character. Needless to say, genocide is absolutely wrong and unacceptable. I have zero respect for his character. The ending reminds me of X-Men's Decimation/House of M arc wherein there were only a handful of mutants left in the world.

I too am inclined to believe Thanos' homeworld was not in the Sol System. If it were, humanity would have been one of the first civilizations to fall under his destructive hands. Gamorra's and Drax's peoples were massacred decades before present-day events.

 

[Noname Given]

Regardless of Thanos' motives to bring about balance into the universe, he is a malevolent character. Needless to say, genocide is absolutely wrong and unacceptable. I have zero respect for his character. The ending reminds me of X-Men's Decimation/House of M arc wherein there were only a handful of mutants left in the world.

I too am inclined to believe Thanos' homeworld was not in the Sol System. If it were, humanity would have been one of the first civilizations to fall under his destructive hands. Gamorra's and Drax's peoples were massacred decades before present-day events.

In the comics (Thanos first appeared in Iron Man, but pretty much was a staple villain for Captain Marvel in the 1970ies) Thanos homeworld was Saturn's moon, Titan. I thionk it still is in the MCU. At the time Titan had intelligent life and a civilization, it's probably true that mankind hadn't evolved yet; or that Thanos did see Earth as a 'world in trouble' needing his solution yet. Remember, in the flashback Thanos was choosing worlds he felt were in dire need of his solution at first.

As for 'not looking like the Titan we know, please. In the Marvel Cinematic Universe - mankind didn't discover Attalan aka the 'Blue Area of the Moon' until last year (but given that 'Inhumans' mini-series, it would have been better if they hadn't ); and further in the MCU who says the U.S. doesn't know there's remnants of a past intelligent civilization on Titan, but is keeping that info from the public?

 

[Kolrad]

I haven't seen any of the MCU's television shows, and I'm not sure the filmmakers have either.

What I'm wondering is where Thanos was in the last scene where he watches the sun rise. His summer home?

 

[The Nth Doctor]

What I'm wondering is where Thanos was in the last scene where he watches the sun rise. His summer home?

The location made me think of one of the final scenes from The Infinity Gauntlet.

 

[Booji]

The location made me think of one of the final scenes from The Infinity Gauntlet.

I was thinking the same thing. i think we'll see that location again...

 

[Guy Gardener]

The Mad Titan's gold armour was turned into a scarecrow for that field 28 years ago in a comicbook and again 3 days ago in a movie.

 

[thribs]

I really wish we had seen this on screen. To be told about Xandar's destruction in the beginning of the film reminded me that some of the narrative seemed rushed.

It’s probably in the prequel comic.

 

[DimesDan]

There are numerous places here on Earth that have the same name, there is apparently a Dublin in Ohio, so there being another Titan which isn't orbiting Saturn isn't all that strange.

 

[Mike Farley]

Comic book logic. it wouldn't work if writers actually had to take into account the utter vastness of the universe. I don't think anyone ever tried to actually explain why Earth has such a high level of superpowered people and why they often enough have to fight cosmic scale enemies such as Galactus or the Beyonder, it simply is and part of the necessity of comicbook readers to not look too closely (yet the fandom is based on people discussing such issues forever ).

In the Earth X miniseries it is revealed that Earth has a baby Celestial gestating in its core. Its presence causes the rise of super-powered beings and is what attracts Galactus.

 

[UssGlenn]

Regardless of Thanos' motives to bring about balance into the universe, he is a malevolent character. Needless to say, genocide is absolutely wrong and unacceptable.

Tony calls it genocide in the movie, and Thanos point out that the culling is entirely random. Given that fact I don't think it actually fits the definition. In fact none of the traditional aims of a genocide would be accomplished by Thanos' strategy.

 

[thribs]

Could have been THE Titan and that was either Rhea or Hyperion Thanos flung at Iron Man.

 

[Brolan]

Isn’t anyone else pissed the entire Marvel universe is headed for a giant reset button? It’s like a bad episode of Trek.