Wolf 359?
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Kitbashed them into new ships.
Salvage depot? There was an episode of TNG "Unification" where dead hulks go; maybe Starfleet took them there?
Qualor 2 from "Unification" reuses many of the Wolf-359 model hulks and was basically a space trash yard, so perhaps they were intended to actually be the same ships and were towed there.
Or maybe they were just left at Wolf 359, like the "Battle of the Binary Stars" wrecks in Star Trek: Discovery? I wonder if Starfleet has to worry about Ferengi or Nausicaan looters warping in and stripping the ships of every valuable resource? I wonder how long it was, if ever, that Starfleet recovered the thousands of bodies?
Or maybe they were just left at Wolf 359, like the "Battle of the Binary Stars" wrecks in Star Trek: Discovery? I wonder if Starfleet has to worry about Ferengi or Nausicaan looters warping in and stripping the ships of every valuable resource? I wonder how long it was, if ever, that Starfleet recovered the thousands of bodies?
Supposedly the recovery of bodies used to be a thing in the 2250s even in Klingon circles - that is, any and every random culture would be expected to engage in it. Certainly Georgiou appeared to expect it, and thus probably also the recovery of her own corpse at some hopefully not too near future a date.
We never really saw a map that would nail down the location of the Binaries, though, so we don't know if it ever became UFP territory again. Perhaps if it did remain Klingon, a diplomatic effort would be made some time after the Narendra III incident to get permission to send a Federation body recovery team in there...?
Picard supposedly was comfortable with leaving the wreckage of the Stargazer to "find her own way", and Starfleet supposedly found nothing wrong with that decision. So perhaps Starfleet does let dead starships lie, possibly complete with the bodies (as leaving bodies floating in space, albeit inside torpedo casings, seems the preferred way to deal with them anyway).
Timo Saloniemi
We never really saw a map that would nail down the location of the Binaries, though, so we don't know if it ever became UFP territory again. Perhaps if it did remain Klingon, a diplomatic effort would be made some time after the Narendra III incident to get permission to send a Federation body recovery team in there...?
Picard supposedly was comfortable with leaving the wreckage of the Stargazer to "find her own way", and Starfleet supposedly found nothing wrong with that decision. So perhaps Starfleet does let dead starships lie, possibly complete with the bodies (as leaving bodies floating in space, albeit inside torpedo casings, seems the preferred way to deal with them anyway).
Timo Saloniemi
It's possible Starfleet left them there as a memorial to those lost in the battle, and a reminder to how close the Federation came to being assimilated.
I think they went back took out the bodies they could. Towed the rest back for parts.
Oh wait, that sounds wrong.
Okay, they towed the wreckages back, removed all dead bodies, then used the salvageable parts in other places.
Oh wait, that sounds wrong.
Okay, they towed the wreckages back, removed all dead bodies, then used the salvageable parts in other places.
The salvageable parts of the ships?
I know,,
It just kept coming out wrong.
Yes, the ship parts.
Not the people parts.
Just checking
I sense a Vidiian joke is afoot...
I figured some of the starship parts were salvaged for use on other vessels. Some were demolished as hazards (leaking radiation) some were left as war graves. The dead crewman were recovered and given a proper memorial service depending on the known wishes of them and their families.
It's pretty remarkable that the Borg left behind any wreckage in the first place. Even the puny Dominion generally managed to blow up starships to mere dust clouds!
But would Starfleet really dare recycle a nacelle left intact by the Borg? They clearly didn't manage to de-louse Jean-Luc Picard carefully enough, leaving a Borg communications device (or the building blocks thereof) inside him and all. Who knows what horrors would impregnate the bulkheads of a salvaged hull section or the isolinear chips of a recovered navigation computer?
Timo Saloniemi
But would Starfleet really dare recycle a nacelle left intact by the Borg? They clearly didn't manage to de-louse Jean-Luc Picard carefully enough, leaving a Borg communications device (or the building blocks thereof) inside him and all. Who knows what horrors would impregnate the bulkheads of a salvaged hull section or the isolinear chips of a recovered navigation computer?
Timo Saloniemi
I don't think the full capabilities of the Borg "invasive electronics" was known back at the time of Wolf-359.
And the Dominion blew starships into dust thanks to advances in CGI special effects over that of model work.
...Actually, it takes CGI to show a ship turning into a wreck, whereas simply blowing up stuff so that nothing remains is a classic VFX trick involving a stock image of explosion to cover the now-you-see-it transition.
But Wolf 359 in "BoBW" required no scenes of actual wrecking, just those odd readymade wrecks that make one wonder in-universe... Oh, well, "Emissary" spent big buck showing the wrecking of a single ship, or at least suggesting said, thus aiding continuity. But the hero ship there still just blew up.
Timo Saloniemi
But Wolf 359 in "BoBW" required no scenes of actual wrecking, just those odd readymade wrecks that make one wonder in-universe... Oh, well, "Emissary" spent big buck showing the wrecking of a single ship, or at least suggesting said, thus aiding continuity. But the hero ship there still just blew up.
Timo Saloniemi
Five of the seven BoBW ships can be seen at the depot (courtesy of stock footage).
I think they might leave remnants inside of Picard, But that was Starfleet's error I'd think.
I just can't see the Borg having the forethought to booby trap or anything even similar to a blown up ship.
I didn't see them as very inventive if creative.
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