He's probably executed plenty of people not of his house based on the morgue room! I don't think he needs a legal reason to go ahead.
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x08 - "Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum"
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You are right, the last transmission from USS Gagarin was on the viewscreen like normal as oppose to a holographic image.
They used the viewscreen for the colony which was under attack as well, IIRC. I guess holograms are for more leisurely communications.
Yeah, that baffles me. It's easily the weakest episode of the season for me, and it feels like a clumsily executed set-up episode rather than something which is in any way remarkable on its own.
I gave this a seven. Would have been a five but I spent all the day with an IT consultant so after finally getting the kids to bed my headspace for new telly was low, but that's hardly the fault of the episode.
There was something unreal about the planet surface I thought, despite the blue vegetation, it didn't have that polystyrene rock and painted sky soundstage vibe that I imagine all other planets to be like.
I'll need a rewatch to be fair.
There was something unreal about the planet surface I thought, despite the blue vegetation, it didn't have that polystyrene rock and painted sky soundstage vibe that I imagine all other planets to be like.
I'll need a rewatch to be fair.
Which is stupid.
The klingons of TOS and the TOS-movies (as well as into TNG/DS9/VOY/ENT) were a perfectly capable militaristic, futuristic society building their own ships. Just a little more rusty. Like the Soviets.
The "conquered warriour race that stole their technology from their invaders" was the schtick of the Kazon. How good is it to steal the concept for your main villains from the Kazon?
There is a LOT of borrowing going on for a fresh new Star Trek.
The Hur'q thing was established in the Deep Space Nine episode 'Sword of Kahless'. The Hur'q were supposed to have invaded 1500 years prior and the Klingons killed all the hurq invaders and started using their technology.
This episode was horrible. It earns a 1 from me.
Memory-Alpha:
"According to the manual for Star Trek: Klingon Academy, the Klingons acquired warp drive from the Hur'q, by capturing and reverse-engineering some of their ships when they resisted their incursions. This explained how the Klingons, despite not being focused on technological research, managed to make the societal jump to interstellar travel."
Video games are non-canon, especially manuals for video games. I don't remember it specifically being mentioned in the episode that the klingons used their technology (I assumed they were just raided, and that was that - maybe left some technology back to inspire klingon research). But it's a little fuzzy in my memory.
Whatever - this idea was stupid. And it belongs in the pile of other one-off episode trash like Warp-10 salamanders and Spock's brain.
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By that, I mean "conquered warriour race that stole their technology from their invaders", aka turning the klingons into Kazon, was stupid.
The idea itself, of the Hur'q, that the klingons were invaded by space invaders long ago in the past, is actually great. And deserves more exploration - maybe the fact that klingons knew relatively early about hostile aliens led to their "Rennaisance", or even united the klingon world and made space-faring research possible?
Again, I don't remember the details. But I laways HATED the "dumbing down" of the klingons, from a capable militaristic society to some stupid space vikings, and having them be too dense to develop warp technology on their own would be the final insult. They're warriours. They need to research weapons and technology!
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Fricking ninja-ed.
The Hurq sacked Qo'noS in the 14th century. Not invaded, conquered, garrisoned or ruled. They blitzed, took some shit and ran. In little Green Men Quark says that Klingons had not invented Warp Drive by 1947, some 600 years later.
Klingons reverse engineering everything they have from the Hurq is videogame canon, not tv/movies canon.
More so even though Broken Bow makes us think otherwise, Picard suggests that Klingons were prewarp, or discovering warp when the Federation first "discovered" them, which is about the only reason that they could get away with sending in spies before first contact, which they didn't, and why that meet and greet was ass over tea kettle.
The Hurq sacked Qo'noS in the 14th century. Not invaded, conquered, garrisoned or ruled. They blitzed, took some shit and ran. In little Green Men Quark says that Klingons had not invented Warp Drive by 1947, some 600 years later.
Klingons reverse engineering everything they have from the Hurq is videogame canon, not tv/movies canon.
More so even though Broken Bow makes us think otherwise, Picard suggests that Klingons were prewarp, or discovering warp when the Federation first "discovered" them, which is about the only reason that they could get away with sending in spies before first contact, which they didn't, and why that meet and greet was ass over tea kettle.
I agree. It makes the Klingons out to be incapable of technological innovation and it's silly. I was just commenting on the fact that the Idea wasn't borrowed from the Kazons backstory
Thank you!
That was what I rememberd. And is actually a really nice concept. For the klingons, it was their collective trauma, maybe even instrumental in them uniting as a species. For the Hur'q - it was tuesday.
Discussion of the Hur'q always makes me think of this poem by Shel Silverstein:
I'd rather play tennis than go to the dentist.
I'd rather play soccer than go to the doctor.
I'd rather play Hurk than go to work.
Hurk? Hurk? What's Hurk?
I don't know, but it must be better than work.
Just thought I'd put that out there.I'd rather play soccer than go to the doctor.
I'd rather play Hurk than go to work.
Hurk? Hurk? What's Hurk?
I don't know, but it must be better than work.
The phasers made farting noises in the opening battle.
Oh did they?
Not really, all that was said in that episode was:
The Hur'q invaded our homeworld over one thousand years ago. Whatever they could not pillage, they destroyed. They took the Sword and my people have been searching for it ever since.
Then there's a later comment that they were plunderers and that the contents of the tunnels was all that was left of them. That's it.
http://www.chakoteya.net/DS9/481.htm
Yeah I'm aware I was incorrect. Other posters have already pointed this out. I clearly confused what I've read about the Hur'q and the actual episode itself.
Thanks, it's good to get things right.
So apparently the H’urq was an insectoid race, with the societal structure of army ants?
Sounds interesting!
Sounds like DSC could need more H’urq and less Klingons.
Sounds interesting!
Sounds like DSC could need more H’urq and less Klingons.
Wait for season two, Discovery will 'borrow' the concept and rejig as their own
