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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x07 - "Magic to Make the Sanest Man Go Mad"

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S01E07 was terrible. Give me a break with that time loop garbage. This was a total ripoff of Dark Matter S03E04. Which that episode also sucked and they are both ripoffs of the movie Groundhog Day, which also sucked. Please no more fluff episodes. If you need to fill more time, branch off of a character like GOT does. Don't avoid writing challenges, that will only cost you viewers. Need more story, follow a Klingon leader, you introduced multiple houses, show how one of the leaders came to power. There is so much more you can do than ripoff someone else's weak crap. There are 2 sides to every war, that's more than just two perspectives, that's lives, motivations, and plenty of backstory. Up until that episode the strength of that series was the writing. Please, no more fluff episodes.
You think Groundhog Day is original? You think it sucks? You, sir, have no credibility.
 
I rewatched this episode tonight. I might have rated it an "8" as an upgrade after that. It's amazing how much fun they packed into this one episode...but also some really cool character moments (Stamets and Burnham slow dancing, anyone?).

I get far more details each rewatch I do.

It seems like DSC hasn't eliminated technobabble, but their method for minimizing it is to cram it in very tight and fast with the regular dialogue. I find myself missing most/all of that first time through.
 
They've kept the technobabble down to TOS dialogue levels, not the soaring verbose cliffs of Voyager technobabble.

Probably because Lorca doesn't care and Stamats is high. Saru gets to the point. This leaves Burnham and Tilly for technobabble. Tilly's a cadet, so she probably would be asking questions rather than answering them, and Burnham is the point of view character who should usually be asking the questions as well, and thus get less technobabble from her, plus she goes Vulcan which gets us Spock-ish more than technobabble.
 
I've been happy with the level of technobabble so far. Enough to understand what's going on or establish a story, but it isn't there in place of drama or used as a get out of jail free card like in Voyager. This level is fine for me. When reversing the polarity of the gravimetric tachyon matrix starts being a major plot point, I zone out.
 
That's because there is no technobabble that justifies a giant bed bug and spores jump starting a ship. As for getting out of jail free.. how many times was the reset button pushed in the last episode.. ?
 
At the point where it was started that Lorca had been killed 53 times, but there could have been thousands of more loops where he didn't kill Lorca before, after and during those 53 loops perhaps noncontiguous loops.
 
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That's because there is no technobabble that justifies a giant bed bug and spores jump starting a ship
There's no technobabble that justifies most Trek tech, didn't stop them before. (Magic crystals help us bend spacetime, fire that magic beam at the plot device and then we'll use this magic box to make a coffee.) It's nice to go back to things just working with minimal made up explanation. The temptation got too strong to make the fake explanation the story in itself.
 
Technobabble solutions to the story problem would be more along the lines of "the enemy has thing that we can't shoot through. Fix it? Let's "technobabble" the thing so it shoots itself and solve the problem for us".

Spore Drives, Giant microbes, are basically tools to get from point A to point B within the timeframe of the plot. The Giant Microbe becomes the moral dilemma for the new technology, rather than the technobabble. The Spore Drive itself is not the technobabble, but alternately the objective for the plot to happen, the goal to make the plot happen, or just the means of moving the characters to the plot.

The time crystal is what sets off the plot, rather than the technobabble. The plot for the Starfleet crew is, "how do we stop Mudd" For Mudd its "How do I get the most profit out of this?" Followed by both using the structure of the episode to get the result they want. The device is there to loop the plot, but not to solve the problem of the plot.
 
Time crystals is so vague.

There may eventually be a hundred different methods of time travel that include, require, or "are" crystals which manipulate time.
 
There's no technobabble that justifies most Trek tech, didn't stop them before. (Magic crystals help us bend spacetime, fire that magic beam at the plot device and then we'll use this magic box to make a coffee.) It's nice to go back to things just working with minimal made up explanation. The temptation got too strong to make the fake explanation the story in itself.
I suppose but .. "And you talk about spores. What are they? They are the progenitors of panspermia. They are the building blocks of energy across the universe." Forming a microscopic web spanning an entire cosmos of quantum entanglement.. of a mycelial network of prototaxites er.. stellaviatori.

Spore shroom drive, right?
 
They've kept the technobabble down to TOS dialogue levels, not the soaring verbose cliffs of Voyager technobabble.
We're flying! Like the iso-atmospheric recursively modulating cytoplasmic life-forms!

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Remember one time when they introduced fire breathing dragons? I wonder what happened to that? I guess they felt they were too powerful for one faction to have so they forgot all about them. Just like DSC’s time crystals/bracelet technology then.



One huge problem with that. You assume that I excuse those things from previous iterations of Trek. Which I DON’T. Oops. So all your speculations about previous Treks getting a pass and everything else after that is simply wrong. Silly gaps of logic are silly gaps of logic, period. I hate them in old Trek as much as I hate them in new Trek. You see a hypocrisy not because it exists but because you want to see it. DSC is Star Trek. It’s as silly written and inconsistent as Trek episodes from 50 years ago. And it’s as serialized as Trek was 30 and 20 years ago. Maybe that’s what the producers meant when they said it will adhere to Prime canon.

And the question is, did you enjoy the original Trek? Yes? One would think so, that you're not punishing yourself by watching something you hate. Then sit back, relax, and enjoy the show.

Suspension of disbelief, people. Or we would never like any movie.
 
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