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Spoilers Supergirl - Season 3

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Cubic Centimeter said:
I don't recall Alex hearing the version of being left on the side of the road. That was what Maggie reminded her dad that he had done. And it was road, not street. When was it Maggie told Alex she had just been left on the side of the road?
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I believe it was last season when Maggie told her the truth about her coming-out story.
 
DigificWriter said:
I believe it was last season when Maggie told her the truth about her coming-out story.
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Thank you, I'll keep an eye out for it, if I ever get to rewatching that, but I honestly don't recall right now. In this week's episode, Alex's mother was hearing about it for the first time, because she was asking for information.
 
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Republican Supergirl would ignore Hurricanes ravaging the country because climate change is a Chinese hoax, and it's mostly killing poor black people who need their voting rights suppressed to Make America Great Again. Republican Supergirl would use her heat ray vision to blow up abortion clinics and anywhere gays can get married, while cutting all gays and abortionists in half, and beheading those on medicare, medicade and the uninsured, bisecting union leaders, burning down schools where the poors go, and sniping Mexicans sneaking up to her border wall that she'd just made in 15 minutes and billed Mexico.

Wow!

Republican Supergirl is the best!
 
You sound sincere, but why don't you come back to me with some specific examples that are not racist, homophobic, or xenophobic. Or find a group of non-whites who feel as you do about the current NFL situation? I'm sorry but every time Trump makes a racist, homophobic, or xenophobic statement then those comments are open for criticism on that basis beyond the specific pros or cons of the policies.

Kirk Prime said:
Unfortunately, they make very thinly veiled attacks on conservatives all the time. And yes, it's very offensive to conservatives. They attack Trump all the time as well. This is not what I want in a superhero show. I only stick around because of stories like the Mars plot last night. That's why I watch it.

This is not supposed to be a show about Supergirl's gay adopted sister. If that's the kind of show someone wants to make, make it, but it's not a comic book genre story. No politics are. And it's one thing to do this storyline, but to have the storyline take up so much time that they actually write half an episode that has nothing to do with anything in the genre, that's a lot.

No, a lesbian agenda is not a left wing ideal. There are gay people on both sides of the aisle. But this show attacks conservatives all the time. From having the aliens in the season finale mocking Trump's slogan to this week with the wall, it's getting very old. It goes WAY beyond the "Alex is gay" storyline that has now been shoved at the viewer for a year.

If you want debate on refugees and Trump's policies, that's what news channels are for. There are plenty of places for politics. A superhero show shouldn't be one of them.

It's like when the NFL can't just play football.

You're right that racism, homophobia and xenophobia are not Republican values. 100 percent right. But Supergirl uses thinly veiled attacks to make that exact impression.

It's horrible.
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Kat Austen said:
I think you're misinterpreting my intention, I'm not advocating he should have been written more simplistically, I do agree that it is way better that the show doesn't shy away from all the complexities and it is absolutely vital to understand where prejudice comes from and why it doesn't go away. That all absolutely stands.
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Since the showrunners saw fit to have Maggie argue that the eternal curse of racism is on the same level of discrimination as homophobia, it is--without question--that they are unfit to address the complexities of most social and/or political subjects. It was inexcusable, yet predictable talking points from the modern Left.

I'm just saying that within this discussion which has dominated the thread the emotional context of what Maggie is going through has been lost, and as you can see by some of the other posters dismissive attitudes towards Maggie, I think that is the more important takeaway that needs to be brought to the front because it's completely lost on some.
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Nothing is "lost"; I believe you see fit to gloss over the grave BS pulled by the writers to focus on Maggie, but that's not possible when they have the character make an argument that is as historically incorrect as saying post Civil War African Americans were just as the sickening Song of the South depicted them in the form of Uncle Remus. IOW, the Maggie argument was lost by writers and showrunners trying to re-write history in order to sell their point. There's no excuse for that, or any moral person to accept it.
 
TREK_GOD_1 said:
Since the showrunners saw fit to have Maggie argue that the eternal curse of racism is on the same level of discrimination as homophobia
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This is like the fifth time you've gone on about this.

The reason nobody is replying to you is because:
a) the show doesn't argue that
b) nobody here is so crass to rank various forms of discrimination... well, almost nobody.
 
Kat Austen said:
I'm just saying that within this discussion which has dominated the thread the emotional context of what Maggie is going through has been lost, and as you can see by some of the other posters dismissive attitudes towards Maggie, I think that is the more important takeaway that needs to be brought to the front because it's completely lost on some.
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This is probably because there's little to discuss. Just speaking for myself; that Maggie is the wronged party in this and the sympathetic character is just taken as read. I don't see any ambiguity in this, or arguable points. Her father's story on the other hand merit's more discussion precisely because it's ambiguous and provides some extra context.
 
John says "Of course I want to go to your bridal party, but I have to save my girlfriend on Mars."

UM.

Alex just needed a space suit and she could have totally gone to Mars.

Hell, if she stayed in the car, even without the window rolled up, because it probably had an environmental shell, Alex would have been sweet.

Although, if they were talking, there is an atmosphere on Mars, or under Mars, albeit toxic to humans.

Alex says "John, I'll be in Kara's pod, and I'll be air support, because the pod has some scary ray guns on it that have never been mentioned before... Hey Maggie! Do you want to claim Mars with me? Let's claim Mars and rename it Lesbonia, we'll do a quicky ceremony right now, and then honeymoon in Martian orbit, banging it out when no one is looking, to you know, christen Lesbonia."

As the "daughters" of the last Green Martian, even as humans, if that relationship was ever formalized, Alex and Kara would have ownership rights to Martian territory, and probably maybe eventually be recipients of reparations, if the White Martian government ever decided that maybe they "went too far" with their Green Martian solution.

The first women on Mars, or a wedding shower.

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Maggie says "Hey dad, if you stop being a homophobic asshole, I'll take you to Mars".
 
Pardon my ignorance, but in the U.S.A. can you turn your 14-year-old sons out onto the streets? And he was a sheriff at the time, a semi-public figure, so I suppose his actions didn't go unnoticed.

What am I missing?
 
Kat Austen said:
This is like the fifth time you've gone on about this.
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Much like you repeating how there's not much sympathy for Maggie in this thread. Go figure.

a) the show doesn't argue that
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No, Maggie (and some in this thread) made the false discrimination equivalency argument to attack the father's lack of sympathy. Next, we already know some are so hypersensitive about selling this show as the champion of fair-minded values that they will ignore clear examples of less than liberal treatment and/or ideology presented on the show--immoral as that is.

b) nobody here is so crass to rank various forms of discrimination... well, almost nobody.
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In blasting the father for not agreeing to a false equivalency (in relation to his own troubles) in order to support and/or understand Maggie, they are ranking discrimination.
 
Skipper said:
Pardon my ignorance, but in the U.S.A. can you turn your 14-year-old sons out onto the streets? And he was a sheriff at the time, a semi-public figure, so I suppose his actions didn't go unnoticed.

What am I missing?
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Maggie was dropped on the street, outside her aunts house.
 
And I just stared out the window looking at the icicles on the trees, and I was terrified to say anything, but finally I said I said, "Papi, what did I do?" And then he just looked at me with such contempt and said, um "You shamed me." And then he pulled up to my aunt's house, and left me with my suitcase. That was the last thing that my father said to me.
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Maybe Maggie lies sometimes?
 
I don't see the two versions being irreconcilable. Her father left her on the street in front of her aunt's house.
 
Like I said, Maggie has told Alex two versions of her story, and done so more than once, which, at least to me, points to both versions being the truth.
 
My point is, and always was, that there's not enough information to know whether the stories are both literally true, except that I did say that I find it likely that the one she reminded her father of most likely is. It's common for people to cover up. Maybe they'll come back to it in a future episode; maybe Alex herself will ask for clarification.
 
I wondering why this aunt and why on the street? In the aunt also gay and ostracized by the family? Or is she even more conservative and will set Maggie "right"?
 
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