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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x05 - "Choose Your Pain"

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The "this is so fucking cool!" just felt like it was thrown in there because we must tick off the cussing box.

I mean, Klingon beating someone's ass, I could see after the Klingon leaves the victim says, "Fucking Klingons," or "fuck me!". Or if a menacing ship arrives, "Oh fuck! Look at that."

But Miss Special Perkypants just has to scream it out for no real good reason. Yanked me right out of the show. It was as eye-rolling as Carol Marcus's gratuitous bra and panty shot in the Abrams movie. Totally stupid.
 
The "this is so fucking cool!" just felt like it was thrown in there because we must tick off the cussing box.

I mean, Klingon beating someone's ass, I could see after the Klingon leaves the victim says, "Fucking Klingons," or "fuck me!". Or if a menacing ship arrives, "Oh fuck! Look at that."

But Miss Special Perkypants just has to scream it out for no real good reason. Yanked me right out of the show. It was as eye-rolling as Carol Marcus's gratuitous bra and panty shot in the Abrams movie. Totally stupid.
Miss Special Perkypants :lol:
 
The "this is so fucking cool!" just felt like it was thrown in there because we must tick off the cussing box.

I mean, Klingon beating someone's ass, I could see after the Klingon leaves the victim says, "Fucking Klingons," or "fuck me!". Or if a menacing ship arrives, "Oh fuck! Look at that."

But Miss Special Perkypants just has to scream it out for no real good reason. Yanked me right out of the show. It was as eye-rolling as Carol Marcus's gratuitous bra and panty shot in the Abrams movie. Totally stupid.

I don't know. My biggest problem with the "fucking cool"-scene was that the science they together did beforehand was SUPER wonky, like warp-10 Salamander-wonky, and that it IMO wasn't as big a breakthrough to deserve such exclamation.

But with the f-word itself? I had no problem with it. Maybe because I fucking like to swear myself a lot...

Then again, might be because I'm European, cussing and nudity are a lot more accepted here, while violence usually is a bit more problematic. And indeed, I think the level of violence/gore on this show is a bit above of what I like in my corny space-opera. This ain't Full Metal Jacket (or BSG for that matter).
 
1. They may not be using Universal Translators. Either because they do not have them, or they don't want to use them during wartime, because of spies shouldn't get too much help blending in, or that they don't want the crew in a tower of babel situation if the power goes down. Universal translators get rid of curse words, or they can get rid of curse words depending on how prudish the person in charge is.

2. Tilly may be 16 years old.

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Then again, might be because I'm European, cussing and nudity are a lot more accepted here, while violence usually is a bit more problematic.
T'Bonz characterized it correctly

But Miss Special Perkypants just has to scream it out for no real good reason. Yanked me right out of the show.

It wasn't that it was shocking or unacceptable in a puritanical way (hell, I swear too much for my own good) - the f bomb was used out of place. It didn't feel natural.
 
It wasn't that it was shocking or unacceptable in a puritanical way (hell, I swear too much for my own good) - the f bomb was used out of place. It didn't feel natural.

Yeah. Comes totally out of the blue and didn't seem organic to the character at all. Tilly hadn't even used mild oaths before, had she?

Considering how rare such language seems to be in the Trek-verse, it made Tilly seem kinda dim.
 
1. They may not be using Universal Translators. Either because they do not have them, or they don't want to use them during wartime, because of spies shouldn't get too much help blending in, or that they don't want the crew in a tower of babel situation if the power goes down. Universal translators get rid of curse words, or they can get rid of curse words depending on how prudish the person in charge is.

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What movie is this?
 
T'Bonz characterized it correctly

It wasn't that it was shocking or unacceptable in a puritanical way (hell, I swear too much for my own good) - the f bomb was used out of place. It didn't feel natural.

I like the idea - dropping the very first F-bomb in Star Trek in a positive way, while having a breakthrough in science no less - a lot more than the actual execution of this idea in this episode. IMO it would have been way more appropriate after, say, the very first spore-drive jump, or something equally impressive. As it were, the cause for the f-bomb seemed so... mundane... compared to other suff we already have seen on Star Trek. Nothing were an easily impressed character really would loose their shit.
 
It would have been funny had Zefram Cochrane used a pretty obvious obscenity right after the Phoenix first jumped to warp. I know it might no longer have been a PG film at that point and the studio wanted as family-friendly a Star Trek film as possible, but to have Cochrane say something like "HOLY S**T, THIS IS F-ING WILD" right as his ship breaks the light barrier would have been entertaining. Cut to Geordi and Riker smiling and looking at one another.
 
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I thought Tilly using it felt perfectly natural.

Remember she’s still green, young and a cadet. Wasn’t it implied that she was pushed through because of her intelligence?
 
It would have been funny had Zefram Cochrane used a pretty obvious obscenity right after the Phoenix first jumped to warp. I know it might no longer have been a PG film at that point and the studio wanted as family-friendly a Star Trek film as possible, but to have Cochrane say something like "HOLY S**T, THIS IS F-ING WILD" right as his ship breaks the light barrier would have been entertaining. Cut to Geordi and Riker smiling and looking at one another.
PG-13 movies can usually get away with one F-bomb that isn't used in a sexual way. It would have been the next logical step from Data's language in GEN.

I think society has actually gotten more prude about this over the years. In the old days, if a movie had educational/historic value, it could possibly get a more permissive rating on appeal... for instance, All the President's Men with twenty-five F-bombs in 1976, with a PG rating. I don't understand why The King's Speech didn't get the same treatment. :rolleyes:

But anyway, it felt forced in STD. It would have made more sense in the Klingon prison ship scenes.

Kor
 
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