I thought they'd get caught (undercover) with the book and told they could get one in the ship's gift shop.
They didn't say just one copy, the admiral said "every Krill ship has at LEAST one on board".
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If the ship did have more than one, it makes you wonder why Mercer did not just ask for another copy. He could have said that he misplaced his copy in the attack and destruction of the Krill ship he was pretending to come from. Then, with his own copy, he and Gordon could have slipped back onto the shuttle and escaped.
The bible plot served the needs of the story. I'm sure any number of things can be used to handwave why other methods wouldn't work but ultimately this is the story they wanted to tell.
Funny that.
That would have been monumentally boring.
I rather enjoyed this, I didn't get the car rental joke, but I really did like the moral quandary that Mercer was faced with, especially as the Krill and the Union are not formally at war.
Easily the best of episode of the series so far. Most of the episode was fun despite the mission that segued nicely into an ethical quagmire. Even before Teleya told Ed that the children would grow up to be his enemy, I knew that wrinkle in his determination to save their lives would arise. Still, I liked how he and Gordon came up with the plan to destroy the weapon without killing the children. One thing I had hoped for was for Teleya to have a glimmer of understanding of why Ed did what he did as perhaps as a build-up to resolving the conflict between the Union and the Krill. Perhaps it'll come at another time. I certainly hope Michael McManus returns to player her again, even if it isn't this season.
On a more lighthearted note, I loved the cold opening with Gordon, John and Alara discovering Bortus can eat anything. Their reaction is very sailor like.
On a more lighthearted note, I loved the cold opening with Gordon, John and Alara discovering Bortus can eat anything. Their reaction is very sailor like.
but we don't know they had multiple copies of the Ankhana on the ship. For many centuries only the clergy and the rich & powerful had copies of the bible (which was still in Latin) and kept out of the hands of the every day hoi poloi
The Krill could be the same - the books aren't allowed outisde of places of worship and the clerics (who probably wield a boatload of power in Krill society) have regular access.
I said "if". But yeah, I think the way the ep portrayed the priest Krill, as having authority, like being able to order the captain to increase security around the chapel, lends credence to your view. I would agree that is the view that the episode wanted to show us.
Admiral Halsey says the Orville is "mid-level exploratory ship" and "not a heavy cruiser", i.e., not the Enterprise. That doesn't mean it is a medium cruiser.
They are not at war. The newest admiral said that the Union could retaliate against the Krill attacks, but is worried that that could lead to war without a better understanding of Krill culture. Right now they are just having skirmishes and unfriendly relations.
The priest didn't order the captain to do it. He requested and it looked like he might get turned down. When the captain agreed, the priest thanked the captain.
Indeed. If The Union did declare war on the Krill, because of the Krill mindset, it would be seen as a holy crusade and could last decades.
Apparently, Bortus is "that" kid you can get to eat anything.
It's a bit strange because even the napkin was crunchy if you listen to the sound.. lol
Napkins are crunchy in the 25h century -- didn't you know that?
I liked the Idea of the Krill thinking only they had souls (I mean, it's not terribly original but it still works as long as done well....) I just meant, It would have been interesting and probably funny if they had met Krill who joined the Military just so they could finish Dental School or open a Sno Cone Stand with their Bonus Money when they got out of the service, you had a glimpse of that in the first ep. when whats her face (first officer) was talking to the Krill captain about what it takes to make a Marriage work....
Thank You!
The Krill ships are still a good deal larger than that one as well, I'm guessing they are going more for the Romulans with the Krill
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When the Krill priest pointed out that the two were hanging around the chapel, the captain wondered why that wasn't a good thing. The priest's reply was that he didn't trust the two "survivors." So it wasn't that they were trying to gain comfort from reading the Ankhana, just that they were sticking out like sore thumbs, and the priest had grown suspicious of them.
Anyhoo, loved this episode. Nothing was neat and tidy at the end, moral and ethical quandaries abounded. Ed's saving of the children showed that no good deed goes unpunished.
It's probably (not) worth noting that being able to eat wasabi without reaction should hardly translate into being able to eat glass and a napkin. 
I kind of wondered about why they needed to interact with a physical copy of the "bible" too. Hell, you'd think there'd be a digital copy in the shuttle or something. But maybe it's just some aspect of the religion that it has to be in book form and only certain books are considered "true" versions so only one in a ship. (And we just have to accept though "TV magic" that Ed was able to use his Not!Tricorder to capture an image of all of the pages of the book in a short length of time. Though, at the end of the episode they don't need the images as they now have an actual, physical, copy of the book.
I kind of wondered about why they needed to interact with a physical copy of the "bible" too. Hell, you'd think there'd be a digital copy in the shuttle or something. But maybe it's just some aspect of the religion that it has to be in book form and only certain books are considered "true" versions so only one in a ship. (And we just have to accept though "TV magic" that Ed was able to use his Not!Tricorder to capture an image of all of the pages of the book in a short length of time. Though, at the end of the episode they don't need the images as they now have an actual, physical, copy of the book.
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You know, if there's a recurrent observation so far by the writers of this series - I don't want to say "message" - it's that people are largely unwilling to change long-held beliefs when presented with contradictory evidence. It's there in the Moclan verdict, the unwillingness of the world-ship government to accept help, and it's evident in Teleya's reaction to what happened.
One might suspect that McFarlane thinks the tendency underlies a lot of human problems.
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Well, when asked, Bortus replied that due to the nature of his homeworld, Moclans can eat just about anything, including what most of us wouldn't consider food. So of course everyone had to have him try and eat something weird.It's, probably (not) worth noting that being able to eat wasabi without reaction should hardly translate into being able to eat glass and a napkin.
Probably like the old Catholic church back in the previous millennium. Only the priests had copies and, in general, only the priests interacted directly with the Bible. There may be a sacred method to making these Bibles, as there was with the Latin Bibles. There are lots of reasons as to why the Bibles were made of real materials and not just digital.
Pretty much my thoughts, it's the notion that an entire culture or society isn't changed instantly by some grand action or inspiring speech.
