That's been confirmed in S01E04. The dedication plaque was quite visible.
Discovery starship discussion [SPOILERS]
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That's been confirmed in S01E04. The dedication plaque was quite visible.
not for a minute - a change in design that substantial like moving saucer sections (to facilitate and totally new propulsion system) defines not just a subclass. that's like uss nautilus being a subclass of (just to have a name) the gato class subs.
The USS Nautilus was a completely top-to-bottom new design. Of course it won’t share the name of the previous (just to have a name) Gato/Balao/Tench-classes. But take the Seawolf-class USS Jimmy Carter submarine. Even though it’s a full 100 feet (30 meters) longer than her sister ships (!), it’s still (called) a Seawolf-class sub! No subclass name or anything. Exactly the same could apply to the Glenn/Discovery if they were based in the existing Crossfield-class hull. I could add that there’s precedent in the Star Trek universe, because the conventional warp drive equipped Excelsior-class ships were still called that even though they shared a different propulsion system than the original (failed) Transwarp Drive of the USS Excelsior lead/test ship. And look how different the original and refit configurations of the Constitution-class ships are/look. No new class or subclass name exists in canon and/or official material.
crossfield class vs glenn class
the entire primerary hull is new - it's not just longer or bigger - the nacelles are a lot longer (i guess they need to be in order to accomodate new spore-drive stuff)
jimmy carter vs seawolf
where's the game changer (aka the spore drive and/or rotating segments) in this two subs. granted they put in a lot more special gear. it also would be a one boat class (most navies don't like those).
refit constitution class
wouldn't that enterprise class also be a one-ship class? atm i can't remember a second refit connie so don't shoot me if i'm wrong (if they are in tas i'm not reeally familiar with that as i can't stand it)
We don't know the full class history of NCC-1031, but if NCC-1020 through 1029 all looked distinct in their own way, the defining factor of the Crossfield class might well be its diversity. "Here's a secondary hull, bolt whatever experiment you wish on this one!", or perhaps "Here are all these leftover Horizon class ships we have no further use for, feel free to modify them however you wish from this USS Crossfield on".
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I thought it said Deck 3?
Also, judging by the windows on either side of the room - Sickbay appears to be in one of the arms connecting the inner and outer saucer rings.
Assuming you're using "official" to mean "licensed", then yes, Enterprise Class did appear in some licensed products. IIRC, Mr. Scott's Guide used it, as well as the old FASA game.
I think we also saw at least parts of one in the Spacedock flyby in TVH, as well as one of the graveyard scenes in TNG (I'm thinking BOBW?).
TAS predated TMP by a few years, so there are none there.
So far we know is that the Discovery and Glenn are the only Federation starships that were fitted with a spore drive. That they are Crossfield class starship, meaning that there's 3 or more of them; And base on that Burnham didn't recognize the class at first, but did later. Base on that they begin designing and installing the spore drive right after the war had started. Most likely were a already exisiting starships that may been in mothball and pull out and taken to a top secret shipyard. It took them 4 years to build the Columbia and 19 months to refitted the Enterprise NCC-1701. When we first saw the Discovery, the war was going on for 6 months.Which means that both the Discovery and Glenn were refitted starships.
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Stamets even directly states in 1x03 that they only yanked him and Strall from their labs after the war started - so I'd guess they were older ships hauled out of mothballs (or teaching ships, perhaps) and then given to the Spore Drive project as the most viable to work for field dynamics or some such macguffins.
If they stick with registries being somewhat chronological, Discovery would be older than Shenzhou. Europa, being the admiral's command ship, seems to be state of the art (with a 16xx registry). That, combined with the remark that she looks brand new, points towards a massive, Enterprise-scale refit. I guess the Crossfileds could just have a regular old saucer that was replaced by the ring on Discovery and Glenn. Or (which would be even cooler), the sphere with the bridge was their 'saucer', Daedalus style (somebody should do a photoshop of the ship without the rings... ).
We have to timeframe for the experiment, but it's heavily implied that the refit didn't happen until after the war broke out, which would fit with the notion of her looking brand-new. Maybe she was just days out of drydock when we first met her. But the design, for all we know, could be 50 years old. We won't know until we get a closeup of the dedication (and even then, she could have been re-christened). But there's no point of pulling a ship from the front line for an experimental refit, so I tend to agree with the idea that she was mothballed or colse to being decomissioned or something.
We have to timeframe for the experiment, but it's heavily implied that the refit didn't happen until after the war broke out, which would fit with the notion of her looking brand-new. Maybe she was just days out of drydock when we first met her. But the design, for all we know, could be 50 years old. We won't know until we get a closeup of the dedication (and even then, she could have been re-christened). But there's no point of pulling a ship from the front line for an experimental refit, so I tend to agree with the idea that she was mothballed or colse to being decomissioned or something.
I don't think so. As far as I can tell looking at screencaps, those aren't real windows, much like the inner walls of the crew quarters and mess hall. They just have dark panels inside.
Stick with? That has never been the case.
It has been, from mid-TNG onward. Everything in the 60xxx and 70xxx range fits that bill (e.g., no prototype NX registry is higher than that of other ships of the same class). The only instance on non-chronological registries has been TOS (and TOS-R) with the registry wallchart mix-and-match from the Encyclopedia. I do prefer Franz Joseph's 17xx for the Constitutions, in this regard.
*cough cough* Steamrunner, Saber, Akira and Norway class registries *cough cough cough*