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THE ORVILLE - S1, E5: "PRIA"

Rate the episode:

  • ***** Excellent

    Votes: 23 26.7%
  • ****

    Votes: 36 41.9%
  • ***

    Votes: 19 22.1%
  • **

    Votes: 7 8.1%
  • * Fear the banana

    Votes: 1 1.2%

  • Total voters
    86
**SPOILERS, OBVIOUSLY**

I loved this episode, and it's my favorite so far. We get to see lots of the ship in this one, I like the swanky reception. I loved where Gordon's joke fell flat, so he just starts drinking. :lol:
Of course, I love the practical joke with the amputated leg. That one was a fun surprise, and I loved it.
The VFX were terrific this week. I mean, they're generally really well done, but with the dark matter storm, and then the wormhole, just gorgeous.
We finally got to see what Yaphit does, which apparently involves engineering, likely maintenance of some kind.
I love how Ed goes from "let's take it slow" to being in bed with her in the next scene. :lol:
Of course, the racoon god story was a brilliant piece of extraneous fluff.
The time travel twist caught me completely off guard. I was not ready for that to be the answer to any plot question. I think it worked well.
I also think the crew are starting to gel really well.

Yeah, this one's my favorite so far, and gets an "Excellent" vote.
 
Even if they cut out all the humor scenes, Orville would still be a pretty solid scifi space adventure.

The time travel plot reminded me of the novel Millenium by John Varley, which was made into a lousy movie.

Clever of Macfarlane to add a romantic scene with Charlize to the script.

In the cocktail party I thought Mercer's ex-wife looked hotter than Pria.

Good job of directing by Frakes.

MacFarlane: "I'm going to write an episode where I get to make out with and have a post-coitus scene with a beautiful woman and then cast Charlize Theron to play her!"

Sometimes, being a movie/TV show creator has its perks.

I think this show is pretty solid. It's maybe a touch paint-by-numbers but it also feels like the kind of stuff we need right now.

I hadn't considered that Theron's character was lying about how The Orville was destroyed in her past and what would happen to them in the future, ergo her disappearance means the ship was never redirected to save her and was never caught in the storm in the first place, but usually you're TOLD that kind of information instead of having to come up with it to explain story inconsistencies.

Yeah, sometimes leaps of logic are necessary in TV and movies to explain things happening even if we don't see them but usually entire plot points like this are something you need to be told.
 
The ship was never destroyed.

It was assumed destroyed, because she took it.

No one needs to rewatch Freejack, but Emelio Esteves' friend upon meeting his pal harvested from the past says that he damn well knew that they must have freejacked him, as soon as the technology was made known to the public.
 
Even if they cut out all the humor scenes, Orville would still be a pretty solid scifi space adventure.

The time travel plot reminded me of the novel Millenium by John Varley, which was made into a lousy movie.

Clever of Macfarlane to add a romantic scene with Charlize to the script.

In the cocktail party I thought Mercer's ex-wife looked hotter than Pria.

Good job of directing by Frakes.

All of this.

If within two weeks Kitan doesn't knock a wall the hell down before the words "Alara you wanna - " are out of Mercer's mouth I'll be a little disappointed. ;)
 
After the set-up the other week between Yaphit and Finn, it struck me that the slimeball was getting away with a lot when he extended his, uh, pseudopod to Pria for what she thought was a handshake.
 
I think they are trying to make "open this jar of pickles" into a catchphrase.

I have to say, I am enjoying The Orville.

I've seen all the episodes, and really by comparison haven't bothered as much with Discovery. Not that I didn't like Discovery, it was ok, but Discovery requires more effort to watch, and Orville is easier.

That said, when I am watching The Orville, I feel like I am watching Star Trek, without the canon.

When comparing the two series, Orville just has a more Trekkish vibe. The jokes again aren't great, but they do get a laugh every now and then. I think the key is that they need to stop with 20th/21st century references, because I really don't think they will be watching Friends and Seinfield 400 years from now.

I think that the jokes should come when they need comic relief, which is not all the time.

For me, the best joke of the series to date was right after a massive serious moment. The Orville is in a battle. It's serious. It's tense. And LaMarr fires the shot that destroys the ship. The second the ship blows up, LaMarr pumps his fist and yells, "booyah! Yeah bitch!" Perfect timing.

Last night's episode was fun. I liked the idea of a time traveler from the future.

But the ending was a little weak. If The Orville destroys the wormhole, thus giving her no reason to come back in time, then shouldn't that create a paradox? If she doesn't go back in time, then she can't save them from destruction. If she can't save them from destruction, they die, and therefore can't destroy the wormhole, so she comes back in time.

Why are they alive? They didn't really do a good job with that paradox.
 
10 LY / Hour?! The fastest speeds for Starfleet's ships was something around 3-4 lightyears / day!

If Kronos is 110 light-years away from Earth, like Star Charts says, the NX-01 was covering 27 light-years per day in "Broken Bow". The Enterprise covered 990 light-years in 12 hours in "The Gamesters of Triskelion". There are other examples of Trek ships being much faster than 3-4 light-years per day.
 
If Kronos is 110 light-years away from Earth, like Star Charts says, the NX-01 was covering 27 light-years per day in "Broken Bow". The Enterprise covered 990 light-years in 12 hours in "The Gamesters of Triskelion". There are other examples of Trek ships being much faster than 3-4 light-years per day.
So the Voyager should have been home in a couple of months? Talk about taking the scenic route.

The best thing about time travel in last night's episode? No 10 minute info dump on its intricacies--just a "we use a wormhole" and a basic "you were never here" resolution.

I just hope it's never turned into a complex examination of paradoxes and detailed explanations if time travel is ever used again in the show. That would be totally out of character for the series and, frankly, boring.
 
OK, is this show, at it's heart, a romantic comedy, just set in space? Even when the sci-fi elements dominate the plot, the relationships always are important.
 
To be fair, racists merely think that they're superior, Isaac knows that he is. And the "half reset" wasn't that different from the DS9 episode "Children of Time". I don't insist that the ideas be new, merely that the execution of them be different. I can enjoy Robinson Crusoe, The Swiss family Robinson, Lost in Space, Robinson Crusoe on Mars, and The Martian even though all have strong thematic similarities.

I think it is different, the planet in "Children of Time" was surrounded by that weird temporal field and thus events inside the field are a different time frame than outside. When the ship emerges, the events inside are altered, but the memories of the crew now outside of the field are unaffected. Works for me (but I always loved that episode).

So Amelia was never taken to the future, and the entire timeline is different.

Cool, cool.

Good point. Not-only should all of this episode be different, but any change ever made by the time travelers using that worm hole should also be affected. Nice catch.

No time travel story survives scrutiny. Do what I did years ago and be kind to your blood pressure--just accept the rules of time travel as the story presents them and go with it.

Pretty good overall (though I liked last week a bit more).

I totally accept the idea of taking the rules as they are presented (for example, though I don't "like" the rules in "Frequency (2000)", they are presented well and followed (until the end where they too screw it up), and I appreciate the movie's attempt at consistency. But in this episode the only time you see the effects of time travel, they are inconsistent and make no sense. Pria disappears, but nothing she did is undone. If Pria disappears, at the very least you have to agree that her little box disappears, and thus she could never have diverted the ship, thus none of the events that led to the destruction of the wormhole could have happened. The episode is not consistent with itself.

As much as I dislike temporal paradoxes, this was still a very good episode, but for me "About a Girl" was by far the best plotwise.

At least this show's temporal mechanics makes some logical sense, unlike CW's Legends of Tomorrow or even The Flash. One could argue that since the wormhole was destroyed after the timeline had been altered, it only affected Pria and not the Orville crew from that point forward. Or who's to say the crew wasn't affected? There could be a ripple effect later that would wipe out or alter the events of the past few days, including ship's logs and crew's memories.

There cannot be a ripple effect, because we see Pria disappear instantly. Everything she affected should also be righted at that same instant.
 
I kind of like the "jar of pickles"" joke with Alara it goes back to the previous episode where Alara sort of school girls over Eds respect for her. I do think sooner or later Ex-Wife or someone will call him on It.
 
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