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News Seth MacFarlane’s The Orville

Watched the episode. Some nice sci fi designs, but the story and characters sucked. I won't be watching any more of it.
 
kirk55555 said:
Its getting fairly middling reviews, so it really shouldn't be shocking that anybody dislikes it. :shrug:
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Then I guess you haven't read this thread (but I don't blame you if you haven't) because the majority of the people here have at least enjoyed it.
 
I got a lot more interesting in the final moments when we would out how the Captain REALLY got his command. I'll keep tuning into Hulu for it.
 
kirk55555 said:
Watched the episode. Some nice sci fi designs, but the story and characters sucked. I won't be watching any more of it.
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To each their own, right? But I've learned from many a show to never one and done something. I would have missed out on so many great shows if I let their not so great pilots bum me out. I usually try to give it three or four episodes.
 
arch101 said:
I got a lot more interesting in the final moments when we would out how the Captain REALLY got his command. I'll keep tuning into Hulu for it.
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I wonder if they planned for that to come out (Mercer finding out, not what we saw) this season in the event of cancellation, or left it for S2 or beyond.
 
Reviewers are people just like you and I, too, unless you want to argue an insane conspiracy where a large chunk of them have banded together to give it negative reviews for _______________ reason.
 
Cinema Geekly said:
To each their own, right? But I've learned from many a show to never one and done something. I would have missed out on so many great shows if I let their not so great pilots bum me out. I usually try to give it three or four episodes.
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Amen! And even then it doesn't hurt to check in on a show once in awhile.
Heck, some of my favorite sci-fi shows didn't really get awesome until the 2nd or 3rd season: Like DS9.

The first half of Season 1 of Babylon5 wasn't that great, it wasn't till the second half that it got better. But it was all worth it cause the 2nd and 3rd season were some of the best sci-fi I've ever seen.
 
tharpdevenport said:
Reviewers are people just like you and I, too, unless you want to argue an insane conspiracy where a large chunk of them have banded together to give it negative reviews for _______________ reason.
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No, no conspiracies. That's giving them far too much credit, honestly. I just have no time for people who enjoy the smell of their own flatulence and expect all the rest of us to enjoy it too.
 
tharpdevenport said:
Reviewers are people just like you and I, too, unless you want to argue an insane conspiracy where a large chunk of them have banded together to give it negative reviews for _______________ reason.
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Well, the fact alone that ordinary viewers are giving Orville 90+ ratings on Rotten Tomatoes, and reviewers give around 20 kinda disproves your point.

And heck, it's not exactly a rare occurrence that reviewers give bad reviews to something the general audience responds well to.

Why that happens, and why a reviewers opinion is generally worthless, is neither a mystery or a conspiracy.

Reviewers don't watch something to relax after a hard day at work, or for an hour of escapism. They watch it cause they're paid to do so, and judge by criteria that most viewers are more forgiving of.

And of course there's also a certain elitism that comes into play. Movie critics like movies that other movie critics like, and often treat popular culture that isn't trendy enough with a certain disdain.
(Just look at the Orville reviews, and how many of the reviewers couldn't help but fling an inordinate amount of spite at Seth Macfarlane.)
 
tharpdevenport said:
Ah, come on -- wouldn't you want to smell flatulence, too, if it were like this:

http://www.pilulepet.com

(Hey, if I take that, will my farts smell good, too?)
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I would much rather create something than tear someone else's creation down. If those people were so well-versed and knowledgeable in their craft, why don't they go do something constructive with it? The truth is that, most times, they can't. Or maybe they tried, failed, and now prefer to bitterly deride those for doing what they couldn't. Either way, and maybe I'm in the minority, I haven't ever felt the need to put much stock in anyone else's opinion in order to form one of my own.

CardassianAssassin said:
Well, the fact alone that ordinary viewers are giving Orville 90+ ratings on Rotten Tomatoes, and reviewers give around 20 kinda disproves your point.
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QFT. A thousand times this.
 
137th Gebirg said:
No, no conspiracies. That's giving them far too much credit, honestly. I just have no time for people who enjoy the smell of their own flatulence and expect all the rest of us to enjoy it too.
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As a professional movie critic, I take great offense to that stereotype!

If only you'd join me one evening for a tasty, vegan snack and a cup of Tibetan Wheatgrass tea at my place, youd quickly come around and realize that the smell of my flatulence is indeed quite marvelous!

Speaking of marvelous, I just watched the most AMAZING Albanian cineplay about a plumber looking for love under the Hoxha dictatorship. Gonna give it 9/10 in tomorrow's review.
 
unigolyn said:
So this is a weird first post but after reading through the entire thread, I felt compelled to defend one of the "lowbrow" jokes.

Namely, the dog licking itself gag. Yes, the dog licking its crotch in itself is just kind of vulgar. But I don't think that's really the joke.

The joke is making fun of the trope of all communication being in video on TNG-era Trek. Every time you contact someone, they're in a perfectly framed shot, and if anything is going on in the background, it's some convenient setup to demonstrate the setting.

Well, that's not really what it would be like, would it? Things like what we saw, i.e. something mundane and inappropriate, would pop up in the background quite often. Someone's kid runs in, a dog licks itself, etc. It would be rather weird if every scientist and civilian was always perfectly composited as if a crew had set the shot up for a cable news talking head segment.

Anyway, that's what I got from that scene, and that's what I found amusing about it, not "ha, look at the dog lick it's crotch!".
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I agree not to mention how the scientist and the captain never brings up the cat. Part of the joke I think is how this funny thing was happening and it was being ignored over plot based talk by the characters. Shows you kind of what the background people are thinking about in those scenes on Trek were the captain and the other guy is having a conversation and everyone else is just sitting their watching other people talk. I doubt everyone's mind is always going to be riveted by what the captain is saying in those moments and are distracted by other things that are happening.

Jason
 
unigolyn said:
So this is a weird first post but after reading through the entire thread, I felt compelled to defend one of the "lowbrow" jokes.

Namely, the dog licking itself gag. Yes, the dog licking its crotch in itself is just kind of vulgar. But I don't think that's really the joke.

The joke is making fun of the trope of all communication being in video on TNG-era Trek. Every time you contact someone, they're in a perfectly framed shot, and if anything is going on in the background, it's some convenient setup to demonstrate the setting.

Well, that's not really what it would be like, would it? Things like what we saw, i.e. something mundane and inappropriate, would pop up in the background quite often. Someone's kid runs in, a dog licks itself, etc. It would be rather weird if every scientist and civilian was always perfectly composited as if a crew had set the shot up for a cable news talking head segment.

Anyway, that's what I got from that scene, and that's what I found amusing about it, not "ha, look at the dog lick it's crotch!".
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Yeah, I had similar thoughts about that. Good post.
 
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